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The Lowdown on Walmart 
Aug. 9, 2010 8:05 am 
Updated: Aug. 25, 2010 7:26 am
Very interesting responses to my last blog about my month without Walmart.  I saw lots of differing opinions, but the majority of the responses echoed my own opinions--Walmart really isn't a great deal after all, and what you save in money you will sacrifice in quality.  I had to giggle at the almost rabid defense of WM from some of the commentors, not because I think you're silly or uneducated or anything of the sort, but because two months ago, I WAS YOU!!  Other than the quick rush in for this or that while Hubs and the kids were waiting int the car, I hadn't stepped foot in a grocery store in more than two years.  I was a die-hard Walmartaholic, and here's why:

1.) The convenience of one-stop shopping

Wow, I just realized that's only two reasons, but they're biggies.  I live in the desert; in the raging, hot, sweltering Arizona desert.  I have three little boys, and they're all in carseats.  It takes approximately ten minutes to get everyone out of the car and situated to go shopping, which requires not only a shopping cart, but also a double stroller.  This is not as much of an ordeal as getting the kids back into the car, which can take twenty minutes including the time it takes to load up the car, put away the massive double stroller, and get the kids all buckled back in, while the car has been sitting in the 110 degree weather for an hour and a half and is now approximately two hundred degrees inside.  It's rough.  I thought the one stop shopping thing would be ideal for us. 

PRICE MATCHING:  Probably one of Walmart's most deceptive practices, and here's why--Walmart will match the price of any competitor so long as you bring in the ad and prove the prices to them.  If you're really lucky, they'll have the ads at their registers so you don't have to bring them with you, but you still have to be vigilant about knowing where everything is on sale, and for what price.  Have fun writing your lists and circling everything in the ad in sharpie so you can prove you're not lying.  They will call you out on EVERY item.  This can make for a LONG check out process, and the cashiers as well as the people behind you will grumble.  Add some coupons in there, and you'll hear a veritable choir of groans, moans, and nasty comments as you try your best to save a little money.  Here's what WM won't do:  They won't match % off, or BOGO items, so that cuts a hefty portion of the really good sales that they're "matching".  Another biggie:  Your sale item must be sold by WM in the same format as the Grocery store.  What does this mean?  If cauliflower is on sale at the grocery store for $.49/lb, WM will not match this price, because they sell cauliflower by the head, not by the pound.  Grocery stores sell their produce primarily by the lb, and WM sells primarily by the quantity--lemons, cantaloupe, oranges--they're all sold by the item, not by the weight.  Cut another huge chunk out of your sales flyers, folks, because you can't have those items, either.  I would always hold back my "ad matching" items for the very end of the trip so that I could make sure to get the correct pricing, but at the end of my trip, it was a very small collection of stuff.  The non-perishable items were fine, but obviously no better of a deal than the grocery store.  WM also does not double coupons, making them almost more trouble than they're worth.  They also do this on purpose.  Oh, and by the way, let's talk about the "low prices".  Ever bought a red bell pepper at WM?  $2.64 EACH.  That's not a seasonal price, either, that's the price all the time.  $2.20 for a small head of cauliflower.  I'm not making this stuff up.  They may offer low prices on many things, but they'll really stick it to you on others. Those Walmart people aren't dumb, ya' know.

Let me touch a minute on Walmart meats.  They look great, no?  All packaged up in their glossy, hermetically sealed packaging that couldn't possibly leak because you can hardly get the stuff opened when you want to use it.  Yes, WM dyes their meat.  It's a fact.  They also seal the packaging to be air-tight so they can keep the meats on the shelf longer.  This doesn't give you fresher meat, it gives you OLDER meat.  One last thing;  I don't know if it's still in practice, but for a long time WM gassed their meats with carbon monoxide--you know, that stuff that kills you?  They liked to spray it all over their meats.  It kept them nice and red for an indeterminate amount of time.  In fact, I saw some news program that had a package of ground beef which was nice and red and fresh looking--it had been in the fridge for TWO YEARS, thanks to CO and sealed packaging.  Hungry yet?  It's amazing what  you can find out when you're not closing your eyes and ears to the plethora of information out there. 

Now my last blog entry was not disparaging in the least toward Walmart.  We all have our preferences, and people can shop wherever the heck they want to, and buy whichever products they like.  I can only speak to my own experiences there, and that's all I will continue to do.  I haven't ever had produce go bad as quickly as when I buy it at WM--apples that are mealy, grapes that are soft and wrinkled, strawberries that mold within a day, cantaloupe that tastes like dirt, shriveled blueberries, the list goes on and on.  But I continued to shop there, didn't I, so who's really ultimately at fault?  ME!!  I had to shop there because they ad match!  I had to shop there because I can get everything in one trip.  Hey, guess what?  I stayed away from Walmart for an entire month, and there were only TWO items that I really needed/wanted at the end of the month.  It was much cheaper to buy my Tide on sale at the grocery store than to buy it at WM.  It was also much cheaper to by my toilet tissue there, and every other item that I needed during the month.  What was I really missing by not shopping at WM? Uh, not a thing, actually.  I didn't miss the rock hard nectarines or the flavorless tomatoes at all!

Aug. 9, 2010 8:26 am
"Rock hard nectarines" LOL, I didn't know about the price matching...til I got behind a guy that had his pile of sale ads in hand! I got tired of waiting and found a shorter line. I recently stopped buying any meat from Wallyworld, too. I've gone back to my local butcher and local grocer.~ Great blog!!!
Aug. 9, 2010 8:53 am
I've never been a Walmart fan. Granted there are some things that I use that I can get a better price on there than anywhere else. My dd was able to use their formula when she was little, diapers back then were a pretty good deal too. I also don't mind buying their kids clothes - yes they are cheap, but my kids will just spill stuff on them so why pay a premium for them to ruin them in two weeks anyway. For the most part I avoid the place like the plague, but every month or two, I make a quick stop - but will never again grab any meat while I'm there!
Aug. 9, 2010 9:05 am
When you say one-stop shopping, what kinds of merchandise are you referring to? Just food items, or do you mean like you also want to pick up socks, new curtains and maybe a television while you're there? lol. If it's just food items, isn't pretty much any decent-sized grocery store "one-stop shopping" too? My parents do the main shop for our house, not me, and I know they sometimes go to multiple grocery stores to chase down good deals on things (usually meat) but there's nothing you CAN'T get at the main store they go to. I used to work there, and they price match too, if it's for the exact same item. You do have to bring the flyer with you, and they'll only match other major grocery chains (so not places like WalMart, or local markets or whatever), but it still means you can go to just the one store you like but still get laundry detergent, diapers, cheese, etc. for the price that another store is offering. All this just to say you can still have some of the things you like about Walmart while going to the grocery store!
Aug. 9, 2010 9:39 am
You've *heard* how I feel about the storethatshallnotbenamed! I, too, was one of the zombie masses that automatically hit thestorethatshallnotbenamed because it was "cheaper" and "more convenient" from the time my area of the sticks was *blessed* w/it's first store when I was about 16, until Mr. LTH made the transition from my BFF to my BF when I was 26. He was an avid detractor of thestorethatshallnotbenamed and had many supporting arguments to support his position (their treatment of employees {do you know TSTSNBN's employees are the NUMBER ONE client for free health care in PA?!}, the crushing monopoly that local small business owners can't compete against, the mass importation of foreign produced goods, etc). At first, I must admit, I mocked him as an "elitist", but I tried to avoid the store in support of his strong beliefs. Then, I did some research on my own and haven't set foot in a store in over 7 years. I can honestly say, I don't miss it, or go w/out, at all. AND, I live in the middle of nowhere, PA, so it CAN be done. AS Rebecca states, to each his/her own, for sure, just don't think you CAN'T live w/out thestorethatshallnotbenamed if you wanted to...I can't wait to read all of the sure-to-follow comments; it was certainly interesting (and respectful!) reading last blog!
Aug. 9, 2010 9:42 am
As someone mentioned in Rebecca's last blog, check out the documentary "The High Cost of Low Prices" if you've never seen it. As w/any documentary, it's certainly slanted to the view of the film maker, but intriguing food for though, nonetheless!
Aug. 9, 2010 10:15 am
You can live without it and I don't care if it does sound elitist, I don't have to deal with the people there if I don't go. The super Wal-Mart in our town is loud and full of families that literally make a trip their entertainment; kids screaming, teenagers running through the store and making out in the shoe department. I don't spend any more money shopping at the local grocery store and Walgreens, with the occasional Central Market run in the city than I spent when I went to Wal-Mart. I still have people at work ask me how "I manage"'d think after all this time, they'd have seen that I manage just fine!
Aug. 9, 2010 10:39 am
I've never been a fan of huge, nonpersonal, coorporations but I used to shop at Wal Mart every now and then. Until we saved our pennies for 3 months to go buy a tv and tried to buy one there. It rang up $100 more then the ticket (and display) said and when we tried to figure it out the manager accused us of changing the tickets. Well maybe if someone had been in electronics they would have seen that didn't ever happen. After 2 hours of being told we were WRONG (customers are always right, especially when they are spending $1000) we vowed never to return to a Wal Mart. We filed complaints, the managers on call got written up and they offered us the tv at the price that was on the ticket. We went to Sears and got a great tv, blue ray, and stand for almost the same price and that included great service. Not to mention our Wal Mart doesn't have a fabric section anymore, but they were the reason our small town quilt shop went out of business. I think Wal Mart ruins small towns and mom and pop shops that help our local economy and families. Enjoy your 2 cent cheaper price because it comes with a loss.
Aug. 9, 2010 12:29 pm
Rebecca, can you point us to a source of you meat dye information? I'd love to learn more. Also, do you have proof that other stores do not use dye on their meats? I feel like probably all places do something unless shopping at a true butcher shop or organic Whole Foods type of place.
Aug. 9, 2010 12:52 pm
WOW I never knew that about the meat. Although, I am guilty of doing the Wal-Mart thing, I very quickly noticed that the fruit/veggies do go bad at a ridiculously accelerated rate!! If they look good at the store, you better be using them the same day! Luckily, hubby and I can shop at the Military Comissary and get really good prices and produce. Great blog!!
Aug. 9, 2010 12:55 pm
Just a quick note. Rebecca, you made me do what I had wanted to do for a while. I too took a break from Walmart. I too think that Walmart has a place, but it will not be my food store again. It has become a GREAT VALUE world with low quality products and sad produce. Thank you for sharing your experience and insight.
Aug. 9, 2010 1:03 pm
Great blog. I live in the desert also (NV) and dread going to Walmart. Mainly just for it's sheer size. Walking through the parking lot in 110 degree heat alone is a chore. I knew their produce was the pits but I had no idea about their meats, thank you for speading the word.
Aug. 9, 2010 2:48 pm
My husband dislikes Walmart VERY MUCH & would LOVE to see me switch. However, we don't have locally owned grocery stores nearby. We have Walmart, Food Lion and Kroger. (Kroger being across town)I agree I may be able to save money buying locally but grocery shopping can be time consuming and I find if I go every few days I spend more. Any suggestions?
Aug. 9, 2010 2:51 pm
My sister calls Walmart "hell" as in "I need to go to 'hell' this weekend, want to come?" I refuse to shop at Walmart. There is one of their superstores right at the end of our block. My husband, who doesn't drive, will walk to WM to pick up milk and/or whiskey once in a while, but not me. I hate the produce, the meat, the staff and the other customers. I do drive, so I patronize a variety of other stores, especially a wonderful one called "Sunflower Farmers Market". the produce there is fresh, delicious and priced much lower than Walmart. Their meats are great too, and they have great sales. I would have to be forcibly dragged before I'll set foot in a Walmart. Thanks for the great blog, Rebecca.
Aug. 9, 2010 3:54 pm
Gee Rebecca, it sounds like WM Took more of your money then it saved you. With the rock hard nectarines, squishy grapes not to mention the AGGRAVATION of trying to conform to Their rules! That is enough to make a Sane woman go Postal! LOL I really enjoyed reading you blog and I thank you for being open enough not to just do it the easy way and actually take the time to find out that they are not really serving the public like they claim they are. Your hubby should be very proud of you for not just saving $$ but looking out for the family in the process. Excellent blog! Nice work
Aug. 9, 2010 4:52 pm
Hello, first I would like to say I'm glad you found something that works for your family about saving money and second I am not a big Walmart fan either, but I would like to know also like KATULLY asked what source you used to find out that Walmart does that to their meats? I know that oxygen can make the outside of ground beef red and of course the inside would be brown from lack of oxygen. Here is something I found on the USDA website: (Why is pre-packaged ground beef red on the outside and sometimes dull, grayish-brown inside? Oxygen from the air reacts with meat pigments to form a bright red color which is usually seen on the surface of meat purchased in the supermarket. The pigment responsible for the red color in meat is oxymyoglobin, a substance found in all warm-blooded animals. Fresh cut meat is purplish in color. The interior of the meat may be grayish brown due to lack of oxygen; however, if all the meat in the package has turned gray or brown, it may be beginning to spoil.) I'm just wondering if it could be that instead of dyeing the meat? I mean I wouldn't put it past Walmart to do that, I just can't find a reliable source that says they do. Thanks for any information!
Aug. 9, 2010 5:00 pm
If you only knew how happy your Walmart posts made me! We gave up and even started publicly boycotting Walmart about 4 years ago. Their labor practices are horrible, they run the ma and pa stores out of business, and they have lobied to make the organic standard LOWER so they can sell it cheaper. To say that I can not stand the store is an understatement ;) I understand the need for groceries cheaper ,though we are soon to be a family of 5 as well with 3 large dogs on top of that so we need to cut back on costs as much as we can. We,too, buy from our local grocery store, famers markets, etc. Thank you so much for your posts!!!
Aug. 9, 2010 9:39 pm
I worked for WM back in the early 80's, long before they were in the all-out grocery business so I've had a very bad taste in my mouth for them, except for the (very) few remaining small stores, for years. For an occasional large purchase I may go to WM, but I find that for the day to day needs, I can hang onto more of my money AND sanity by shopping sales at the regular grocery store or Dollar General for lots of things like household/health/beauty items. Locally we have a small grocery store chain (6 stores) that has great meats that they cut and package daily. I really don't like to think about factory processed meats. I want my steaks cut from a side of beef back in the meat market instead of on an assembly line who knows where!
Aug. 10, 2010 1:08 am
My Walmart experience: Went early one morning when store was practically empty. Had 27 (as I found out later)items but went to the express lane because it was closest and no one was around. The clerk was NOT happy with me using her lane and suggested rather curtly that the next time I had 27 items I should use the regular lanes so I didn't delay those with 20 or less items. I looked all around and said, "You've got to be kidding..." But she was serious. I thought she might even call the lane police and report me!
Aug. 10, 2010 1:13 am
What an interesting blog! I am sooo guilty of resorting to WM for one-stop shopping. Here in California we are just now getting "mini" SuperWalmarts with full grocery departments. The lure of one stop shopping appealed to me because it saves time (I am a single mother who works full time). But what you said rings true, the quality of many products, fruits especially, are terrible...and the prices on other things don't seem that much cheaper. Thanks for the wake up!
Aug. 10, 2010 1:13 am
We do buy some canned goods, cereals, paper products - usually their dairy products are lots cheaper than Albertson's, but we rarely buy produce and we never buy the meat. We are noticing more of the store brands and fewer name brands all the time.
Aug. 10, 2010 4:14 am
FYI for those that choose not to patronize thestorethatsallnotbenamed....the same parent company also owns Sam's Club and Lowes....
Aug. 10, 2010 7:21 am
I bounce between Walmart(s) and Target(s), depending on which direction I need to go on the road. There's at least ONE ITEM that I can only find at WM -- the only rabbit food my bun will eat -- so I'm 'stuck.' But, their pet department prices are usually the best so, I make it an event. However, I've noticed that my local grocery store -- whether or not to compete with Walmart and Target, I don't know -- sometimes WAY outdoes them, with a better buy. Hannaford dropped their dog food prices way down, on the kind I buy for our dogs. I love Hannaford -- I think it's just here in the northeastern USA, though.
Aug. 10, 2010 1:14 pm
I live in the Phoenix area, too. Have you ever tried the Bountiful Baskets Vegetable Co-op? If you choose to participate on any given week, you order online and pay about $16. Then you basically get a mystery box of half veggies/half fruits on Saturday morning. I've only participated a few times, but have had a positive experience so far. I know they have some pick-up locations in Chandler.
Aug. 10, 2010 1:28 pm
LTH, that Is very interesting! Thank goodness I don't have either of those around me.! I am a Costco/hope Depot gal. Altho, I don't know Why I go to HD,you go in there and spend Days looking for someone to help you! UUGG. Sorry, Rebecca.
Aug. 11, 2010 10:44 am
I worked at Hannaford--Wendyws--for 21 years, Walmart came to town...their first store no groceries. They enlarged to SUPERSTORE staus and the reverse flood to the new location began. The tide has turned, the regular customers have returned to Hannaford and Shaw's (in NE) due the reasons previously stated. Also NO meat is processed in WM, their 'meat room' is simply a stocking area...EVERYTHING comes in prepackaged (How old?). Check prices on everything..often let's say Bounty towels are 99 cents at your grocery chain and 92 cents at WM the WM package often will have fewer sq. inches per roll...not cheaper just less money for the roll and less product. If you go to k-Mart, let's say and buy a toaster for $16 your friend tells you same thing at WM for $12! WM makes a deal with manufacturer to make it cheaper so that WM can 'sell it for less' obviously there's l-e-s-s quality too...I NEVER go to the SUPER WM (actually I said that for so many years at my job--I'm afraid that I'd be stoned by Hannaford associates and customers if I was seen there LOL.
Aug. 11, 2010 12:26 pm
You know the sad thing is that WM has put so many Mom & Pop grocery stores, hardware stores, feed stores, etc out of business in small towns. In some places, WM is the ONLY store in town and that's a shame. Fortunately for me, that's not the case. As with a lot of you, I decided to boycott WM about 5 years ago and HAVE NOT BEEN BACK. My discount store of choice is Super Target. Their prices may not be as low but it's a giant step up the food chain from WM!
Aug. 11, 2010 1:48 pm
@banshezmom-Walmart's clothes may be cheaper, but they also stain easier. the same outfit from Old Navy or Gap or (my fav) Carters may cost a few $ more, but does not stain or shrink as much. So far, everything that is Walmart brand has stained, or shrunk to where my baby can't wear it, but the others are ready to be passed on to another mom looking pretty good (and I got some of them handmedown!) As has been noted above, I went to Walmart for All You magazine (only place you can buy it, love the coupons!). Walked by the dairy and noticed 6 feet of Great Value brand, 1 foot of Kraft cheese. After reading this article (and being offended especially by the Hefty blackmail) I refuse to buy the Great Value brand.
Aug. 11, 2010 1:55 pm
Oh, and I wanted to add to the meat comment: (Read into this what you want) Walmart used to have meatcutters on site. A Texas Walmart managed to unionize their meatcutters. Now Walmart ships in prepackaged containers with no meatcutters at any stores, which means no special orders. If you want that on sale roast thinly sliced, not going to happen at Walmart.
Aug. 11, 2010 3:28 pm
Rebecca.... you know how I feel about Walmart. When they came to town they came to our store to try to steal our good employees to go to work for them....promised them full time and benefits at more than they were making....some left and when they got to Walmart they found out they were part time with no benefits....bald faced lies to get people to come to work...what do you've already quit your other job. Our people all came back....a small corporation would do that for trusted employees....would Walmart? I think not. Walmart said they would shut down our little local food store chain in a year....10 years later we are still in business.....have they hurt bet....but a lot of our customers are like you....loyal. Shop at your local supermarket and have the money stay in your local economy......not to Walleyworld headquarters.
Aug. 12, 2010 4:09 pm
iwork at wal-marts so i do shop there. i also shop the sale adds because i can get alot of things cheaper at other stores. and i find if i am shopping for food it is best to shop store that only sell food so i dont buy alot of things i dont really need. i like reading others point of views on the store i work at it helps me give insite to the maniger staff on how we can make our stores better for our customers.
Aug. 13, 2010 4:09 am
I have to say as someone who needs tp watch every penny she spends on food, wal-mart is by far the winner. I do NOT buy their meats however unless it is a brand name of chicken such as Perdue. Their veggies I have never had a problem with although I don't buy that much. Their bananas are just fine as far as I can see. I don't support their practices but unfortunately my wallet at this time wins out over anything else. I do shop the other stores in my area but the majority of grocery items, milk, eggs, pasta, flour etc. I buy there and will continue until the other stores quit raising their prices every 2 weeks.
Aug. 13, 2010 4:47 am
I refuse to buy anything perishable from Walmart after having a friend who worked there share his horror stories. My favorite is the pallet of meat that sat on a loading dock in 100+ heat for an entire day, then was placed in the cooler to be sold. That lovely packaging/dye/chemical job they do made where you never would have known. For other things, like toilet paper, socks, cleaning supplies, etc, I go to the dollar stores or get them on sale or the generic at Walgreens. Clothes come from Sears and other places that are inexpensive and higher quality. Electronics come from electronic stores that price match. I frequently go weeks without a trip to Walmart, and I like it that way. With a little planning, I can get all of the same stuff at the same (or lower) prices elsewhere.
Aug. 13, 2010 4:51 am
The reason I don't buy their meat is that almost everything is injected with a 30% solution which to me only adds weight to the meat which increases the price and not the tastiness of the meat. I would rather inject my meat with my own mixtures.
Aug. 13, 2010 4:51 am
Good blog! Enoyed reading everyone's comments also!
Aug. 13, 2010 5:45 am
We have grocery stores (and drugstores) on every corner; yippeee. That, keeps me out of WM! I got tired of their cashiers with attitudes causing me to feel as though I forced them to come to work that day (my bad) and me having to teach them how to say "Thank You"!!
Aug. 13, 2010 5:46 am
What gshepherd said...DITTO!
Aug. 13, 2010 5:54 am
Not a Wally World fan here. I too do not like the crowds and the only-on-the-surface-low-prices. My small town grocer has fresh meat and produce daily purchased from people who raised it and live nearby. They address me by name when I shop. I found I really did not save money shopping at The Big Blue and White Box. I commute to work and the Park and Ride is in the WM lot. I do not shop there. Thanks for spreading the word Tat.
Aug. 13, 2010 5:59 am
Well I have to kinda disagree, I love Wal Mart, and I'll tell you why: 1.) Their meat and produce prices suck, lol yes they do! So I buy those things somewhere else, but as far as frozen, canned, etc. Wal Mart beats everyone everytime. 2.) I just got all my daughters school stuff last night from Wal Mart, and I saved ALOT of money. Example: Elmers glue stick @ WalMart 0.25, Elmers glue stick at the local grocery store/Office Depot:$1.00,see what I mean? If you have to buy 2, you spend 0.50 @ Walmart or 2.00 somewhere else! Or Crayola Crayons 24ct.@ WalMart 0.25, everywhere else its at least 1.99, when you have to buy 2 of each plus clothes etc. it gets expensive. I do agree with the employees not being very good, long lines, and the huffs and puffs when you pull out a stack of grocery ads and coupons; but the way I see it it: WHO CARES??? lol Its your money your saving, I don't care if the people behind me get mad, and you shouldn't either. If you want to save money you have to PLAN, PREPARE and ORGANIZE! I will continue to shop at WalMart for the simple fact that they always have the same products at the same low price, period. Way better than the grocery store, like for a 24 pack of diet coke @ Walmart its 5.50, anywhere else its more unless its on sale. They just have good prices on everything, and yes I buy clothes from there too. I am a college student with a young child, I can't afford "quality" from Macy's or Palais Royal, and I think the clothes I get from Wal Mart are just fine. Do you really go to the Farmers Market to get fresh produce? Its really that much cheaper than the grocery store? I guess If I had the money to afford it I would go, and if I had the time to go, but I don't, and most people that work, go to college and have children don't either. So we eat frozen veggies, kill me lol! So its not organic and local, I guess I just get tired of so many people being so unrealistic, so judgemental when it comes to things like this, Oh they inject their meats, oh their produce is poisoned, Oh WalMarts quality is terrible, I have to wait in line, lol You have to wait in line anywhere you go don't you? And if you are really trying to save money usually its going to take some work. No health insurance, shame on Wal Mart. But really, shame on everyone, guess how much my husbands 'good" benefits are for a family of 3 to have insurance?? $900.00 a MONTH! Yea, he makes 15.50 an hour, so on a good week with lots of overtime he'll bring home like 700-800, but after rent, phone, groceries from goobers like WalMart, gas, internet, etc. do you really think we have money to pay for that insurance? No. Do you think that the taxes we pay are going to give us Medicaid or foodstamps? NO. No help for us! To poor to pay for insurance and to rich to get any help. Welcome to America, home of the cheat. And think about all of the jobs that WalMart is supplying, close all the WalMarts and you will have alot of hungry families. And yes Walmart and Sams are owned by the same parent company, and I know alot of us go to Sams right?? It saves us SO much money, just saying all the WalMart bashing is ridiculous, what about those Mom and Pop shops that don't give their employees health insurance, aren't you going to bash them? Of course not, they are "local", last time I checked Burger King didn't have great benefits either, if you want great benefits you go to SCHOOL, theres no other way. Maybe the occasional lucky dog that finds a decent job with no degree, but the majority have to get an education if you want the benefits, or to be able to even afford them. Bottom line: Walmarts meat and produce prices suck, everything else is way cheaper than other stores, and if its not, you can bring your ad and they will give you the exact item, they accept printed coupons off the internet, they have cheap school supplies and toiletries, as well as paper goods, and their clothes aren't all that bad either, even if they are not "quality".
Aug. 13, 2010 6:00 am
Oops, I mean Rebecca. Just got done reading Tat2Whttsh's blog too.
Aug. 13, 2010 6:30 am
I'm thrilled to find others who think Wal-Mart is NOT the cat's meow! I've long despised Wal-Mart because of their declining customer service and over the last year, they started pushing competitor’s products off the shelf and only offered "Great Value" products; and of course, their labor practices. It is a shame that Wal-Mart brings in a GAZILLION dollars a year, but yet treats their employees so poorly. Also, after Mr. Walton passed “buy American” went out the door…I might be a little more supportive of Wal-Mart if they were more supportive of the United States! I waited patiently as the new family owned/operated Crest store opened up here in Oklahoma City. It's a little farther away, but it is SOOOOOOOO worth it!! Can one live without Wal-Mart – OMG! Yes, you can!!!! In between Crest and Target, all of my shopping needs are met! Thanks for the great blog!!
Aug. 13, 2010 6:31 am
I agree with SHELLBELL and want to add that our Super Wal-Mart has produce that is as good as the other grocery stores in town--I know because I often stop at different stores after work. And, yes, their prices keep going up, but so do everyone elses!
Aug. 13, 2010 6:33 am
It's too bad Walmart preys on the poor, keeping them unhealthy, while destroying the fabric of our mom-and-pop neighborhoods. (I'm betting if you go to Walmart a lot, you also go to the doctor a lot...think about it!) Come on, people, I don't care HOW poor you are, you can live without Walmart! I radically changed my family's diet: We eat clean, fresh and local. I save money by NOT BUYING PROCESSED FOODS...if you don't buy the junk, you have more $$ for real food. And we're gradually going vegetarian...I just read about the dyes in meats, are you kidding me???? ANOTHER good reason to quit meat (and yes, you CAN live without former carnivore husband is doing fine, happier and healthier...he's lost 18lbs!) Kill Walmart!!!!!! NOW!!!!!!!
Aug. 13, 2010 6:37 am
Treating meat in sealed packages with gas mixtures is a common preservative treatment. The most common standard packaging options are: 1) Commercial plastic wrap (a styrofoam tray wrapped in plastic), and 2) Vacuum packaged. Gas mixtures can be added to extend shelf life, and these include 3) Carbon monoxide/oxygen/nitrogen mixtures. Each of these preservative treatments have benefits and drawbacks. In preserving meat, the main concerns are bacterial count and the sensory qualities of the meat: color, aroma, taste, texture, etc. For CO treatment, there's evidence that it's about the same as plastic wrap in inhibiting bacterial growth, but vacuum packaging is much better. Carbon monoxide may be exceptionally good at preserving color, which is why the old beef remains red. Unfortunately, I don't have a website to direct you to -- I'm a scientist who has worked with data from meat packaging studies.
Aug. 13, 2010 6:38 am
BTW I just saw on 60 minutes or 20/20 those local farmers that are hiring illegal immigrants to pick all of that great fresh produce, and the illegals are bringing their 5 yr old children to help them. Walmart probrably does the same, just saying that those local farmers are NOT as innocent as they look, and they pay the illegals TERRIBLE to pick their crops. Like I cried when I watched that show because it was so sad, seeing those people work SO hard for NOTHING, and they have their children illegally helping them???? That is outrageous and the farmers AND walmart need to do something about it, heres the link if ur interested in the story
Aug. 13, 2010 6:39 am
And Walmart preys on the poor, yes, but they also prey on the smart who want to save money! You don't have to be poor to save money @ WalMart!
Aug. 13, 2010 6:45 am
By the way, on Monday I had to return a package of seafood to Winn Dixie that smelled "off", and about a month ago I had to return some Perdue chicken breasts to Publix that also didn't smell right. It happens.
Aug. 13, 2010 6:47 am
Another GREAT blog!!!!
Aug. 13, 2010 6:48 am
Someone deleted my labor post? Farmers have shotty labor practices to,they hire illegals and let their children help them, so does walmart and everyone else in america,
Aug. 13, 2010 7:18 am
Like SOUTHERN TRANSPLANT, I'd like to thank SHELLBELL for a very thoughtful response to the WalMart topic. Rebecca, while I no longer have small children, I remember how nice it was to be able to accomplish many shopping tasks at one stop. In those days, I was pretty much able to do that by comparing in two places, Grand Union and Great American. But making more than one stop has usually been necessary for me -- four to five is more like it -- it's just that now it's easy (and fun) to make the rounds. You spoke about price matching, which I guess I had heard about, but never engaged in. I don't need to! I can easily remember that I will pay at least 1/3 more for brand-name cereal; that I will pay that same extra 1/3 for brand-name condiments, toothpaste, shampoo, detergent, etc. ---unless they're on a BOGO or other special sale. I ALWAYS use the sales at our Price Chopper, but otherwise pick these sorts of things up at WalMart. I can't argue with your and other people's experience regarding WalMart produce. Obviously, the selection has a lot to do with the individual store, season, etc. The one we use has good -- not great produce -- and I don't buy too much there. However, one thing I really do appreciate is the always low price (and excellent condition) of their herbs -- parsley, cilantro, basil, are HALF of what they are elsewhere. I rarely buy meat at WalMart, but as for injecting meat, most of the supermarkets do this, unfortunately. To my knowledge, Trader Joe's and Whole Foods say they do not. But neither of those is in our area. Also, Whole Foods is no place to save money. Several people have mentioned Aldi, which is worldwide with more than 8,000 stores. It's another great place to find bargains -- but all three stores I've seen are small and definitely not one-stop. It also requires getting used to unfamiliar labels. But the treasures you can find there are worth the hunt!
Aug. 13, 2010 7:34 am
In all fairness I was watching a special documentary on the Wal-Mart and their different chains, which included an interview with the CEO who very honestly admitted "THEY ARE NOT THE LOWEST PRICED STORE ONE EVERYTHING!!!" He did admit usually they are only the lowest priced on their "special marked" items which are usually sitting out in the middle of store isles. He did continue to say that yes this is a marketing ploy and they are aware there are stores with lower prices on different items. He didn't seem apologetic or like he was trying to hide anything. He admitted the real savings to walmart is the one stop shopping it allows many people to do. This was on TV years ago but it did stick with me. Just thought I would let you know that.
Aug. 13, 2010 7:39 am
Read the book "Animal, Vegetable, Miracle" by Barbara Kingsolver. You may not want to shop anywhere again. You just might grow your own!
Aug. 13, 2010 7:56 am
I'm all about the one stop shopping but lately my love of WalMart is rapidly depleting. It started with not being able to find my favorite name brand crackers there. The first couple of times I figured they were just out. Then one day the "cracker" man was there filling for his company and I asked him where these particular crackers were. He said WalMart is cutting back on space devoted to outside vendors because they are pushing their own store brands more and more. That ticked me off. I don't want the freaking WalMart crackers I want the name brand ones! I noticed more and more throughout the store they were removing name brand items and replacing with store brand. UGH! Now I'm no name brand snob and there are certainly items I only buy store brand on but GIVE ME A CHOICE! At any rate, I've rediscoverd my local grocery store. I should note I never bought meat/produce at WalMart, too expensive and the quality is dismal at best.
Aug. 13, 2010 8:18 am
Jena, I was just telling my husband the other day about Walmart not carrying some crackers I wanted! I bought the store brand and they tasted stale. I've noticed they have also stopped carrying products that I get sometimes like wheat gluten to name one. I would like to also say that I don't think Walmart is a bad place though. Someone mentioned marketing ploys, every store has marketing ploys even non-grocery stores. And some people have mentioned processed foods. Walmart is not the only place that sells processed foods. As far as treating their employees unfairly if you look at the history of big businesses and even small businesses for that matter I'm sure you would find unhappy employees that are underpaid, overworked and have horrible benefits. Most other big businesses probably wish they could be Walmart. They are all in it for a profit. And remember once upon a time Walmart was like a mom and pop store. They just kept getting bigger.
Aug. 13, 2010 8:57 am
Food for thought (pun intended). I love Wal-mart! My DH is a Internist (adult medicine), so most of his patients are seniors. What many of you are calling poor labor practices I call equal opportunity. Many of hubby's patients are able to get jobs at WM and get off the government aid programs. Maybe they don't get paid much but one thing they do get is pride. As the mother of 3 special needs children, I am happy to know that there is a company out there who may one day be willing to give one of my boys a chance to earn some respect, some money and get the joy and pride of gainful employment. Even if it is the evil, devil-spawned Wal-mart! LOL And yes, we have been poor. We had been married 10 years and had 3 children before my hubby had a job. We ate out of the garbage cans. My grandfather died and I wore his clothes for several years! I know about penny pinching, coupons, shopping the sales etc. BTW, I have yet to find an unhelpful clerk at my WM. Most of them stop what they are doing and take me directly to what I am looking for. I have never had a problem returning anything either, sometimes with no receipt. And I compared prescription prices and WM beat every other pharmacy hands down. At this stage in my life my time is valuable and if I can get everything at one place, I am saving. So every time I'm in line and the clerk is a little slower, or the customer's coupons are stacked deep, I pull out my pocket Sudoku (that I bought at WM!) and be grateful that I can enjoy this ride we call life. I'll jump off my soapbox now. PS I agree that their meat department is poor and I do buy it elsewhere!
Aug. 13, 2010 9:26 am
i am only shopping for me, so i just go to walmart because driving all over h&ll and back to save maybe $5 would be illogical, since my normal shopping for a week is 25-35$. the only thing that bugs me about WM is the less than stellar selection. it honestly bothers me that they don't carry things like beets, endive, or some other "weird" things.
Aug. 13, 2010 9:27 am
what's everyone's opinion on Costco?
Aug. 13, 2010 9:38 am
I've just read all of the blog and I have to agree with Shellbell. I worked at WM back in the 80's before that store was turned into a Super Center. I loved working there. That's when we still used a pricing gun on everything. Wal-Mart was very good to me in 1989 when our home burned two weeks before Christmas. Sam Walton sent me a letter with a check and also gave me a $2500 voucher to get what we needed for our boys. I still have his letter. Fellow employees helped us, on their own time to help us get things cleaned that could be salvaged. Even the store manager showed up.I even got a week off with pay. I didn't have to use my vacation time. I know all of this was kind of off the subject, but Wal-Mart will always have a special place in my heart, well, at least the people I worked with. And by the way, I don't buy my meat there either, not because I've ever gotten bad meat there, but the meat prices are too high for me, but then meat prices are high everywhere..
Aug. 13, 2010 9:57 am
Thanks for the insite on Wal-mart shopping. I have to say I do not shop Wal-Mart at all. One of the many reasons I quit shopping there is because I don't like the super center feel of it. We now buy our meat from a butcher, usually half a beef at a time considering we have to drive over an hour to a large town. And we shop the sales at our local market, the veggies are fresher and if you watch the sales it is cheaper than shopping at Wal-Mart. And the stores are much cleaner than ANY Wal-Mart I have ever been to.Thanks for the blog it is good to know I am not alone.
Aug. 13, 2010 9:59 am
I am with you on Walmart! I was a walmart girl, it was easier, it was cheaper...etc.....I stopped going to wal-mart for groceries over a year ago. I go to food lion, kroger and publix. Aldi when it is convienient(since it is on my way to work). After talking to the butcher at food lion (yes they actually still cut their OWN meat), I do not buy meat at walmart or kroger. Their meat is packed at a "packing" site and treated to increase shelf life. The local food lion and publix pack meat daily based on what they sell. I prefer to only buy when it is on sale than to buy something that looks great and tastes like soogy cardboard. Everyone has to do what works for them and for me it is watching sales and avoiding wal-mart.
Aug. 13, 2010 10:04 am
Could not agree more with your blog comments! I recommend Food Inc. documentary for anyone who would like to eat healthier and really know what you are buying at the grocery store or anywhere for that matter. As Nuggets pointed out WM is not the only place to buy processed foods and treated meat. The documentary allows you to see the world with your eyes open instead of blindly following the masses to destruction..... It has opened my eyes to government regulation as well. Is it really as safe and wonderful as we all have been led to believe? Why would the FDA allow WM and other stores to put carbon monoxide on our food and keep it in a cooler for 2 years before it is sold? Hummmmmmm.........
Aug. 13, 2010 10:20 am
I'm a Walmart shopper bc its right down the street. Up until recently I stopped eating meat, but outside of chicken, I NEVER purchased meat from Walmart bc it just looked too red and now I know why. I will continue to shop at Walmart bc their dry groceries are a lot cheaper than any of our grocery stores, but I will purchase my produce from the Farmer's market bc their produce department is awful! But i noticed that it seems that Walmart seems to target the unhealthy market. They have refried beans in every version, but vegetarian and low-fat varieties of anything is usually very limited. Thanks for the eye-opening articles...your ideas about meal planning, buying per day, and shopping more at the grocery store has allowed me to cut my grocery bill down by more than half. I too am sick and tired of throwing my hard earned money in the garbage, so I know exactly what you are talking about!
Aug. 13, 2010 10:33 am
I have to chime in and say I wholeheartedly agree with SHELLBELL. I don't buy any perishable foods at WalMart and seldom buy shelf-stable foods there, but ALL of my paper products, bathroom products, pet foods/supplies, school supplies, and clothes are purchased there. I have not yet found ANY other store where I can get a pair of jeans for my 14-year-old for $12. And those jeans last her an entire school year, without stains and without shrinking. All of my work clothes are purchased there as well and recently my co-worker (a textiles major in college) told me how much she loves my blouses! We're talking $12-15 WalMart blouses, people! LOVED by a textiles major! How about underwear and socks? $5.00 for 12 pairs of socks for my kids...$6.00 for a bra for me! Whoever heard of a $6.00 bra ANYWHERE? And it's not poor quality, either. How about pet supplies? I have a macaw. An 8-pound bag of her seed costs $8.96 at WalMart. At any other store it's at least $15. Cat litter? It's $2.48 for 25 pounds at WalMart...more than twice as expensive anywhere else. Basically what I'm trying to say is that, as a single mother struggling to make ends meet with less than $400 a month (after bills are paid) for groceries, bathroom products, pet supplies, gasoline for my car, and anything else that comes up, I am going to shop wherever I get the most for my money. WalMart continues to be that place for everything except most food items.
Aug. 13, 2010 10:36 am
@ Lovely25, how does walmart target the unhealthy market? Healthy refried beans are homemade, not bought in a can, and Walmart has big ole bags of dry beans at a heck of a good price, you don't have to be a vegetarian to be healthy, I am healthy, and I'm not a vegetarian.I don't think that you should say that walmart targets unhealthy people, because that is completely and totally stereotyping people who shop there.And I don't think it is fair to say that walmart preys upon the poor either. People from all walks of life shop there. I think the reason why walmart doesn't carry every brand of every kind of thing under the sun is because no one does, right? I have got to disagree with you. Walmarts meat and produce are expensive. They have LOTS of lowfat products all around the store. I am not familiar with vegetarian refried beans, but to my understanding a vegetarian would probrably make their own? Because they wouldn't want the animal fat? I dunno why I feel so strongly on this blog, but I do. I do not mean to offend and/or make anyone upset,so please do not be offended. I would just like to know why walmart is so terrible?
Aug. 13, 2010 10:40 am
The meat is not dyed. It would have to be labeled as such, per USDA FSIS regulations. The packages are flushed with a proprietary blend of nitrogen and carbon dioxide. This serves two purposes: It keeps the color red and more importantly, it cuts down on bacterial growth. Most spoilage bacteria need oxygen to survive, grow and reproduce (thus the storage longevity of Cryovac items). If they don't have oxygen, they don't make it, and the meat stays fresher longer. Additionally , oxygen causes deterioration of the fat in the form of oxidation (aka rancidity). HERE IS THE BIGGIE: One thing that you may have not noticed about WalMart and possibly other grocery stores, is that the meat that they sell has had a saline solution added. Usually 12-15%. Check the label, around the name of the cut of meat. It is required by law that they put this on the label. Figure that added water, salt, and usually phosphates (cuts down on oxidation and rancidity) into the price of your meat. That is a really common addition into fresh, as well as preseasoned/marinated meats (and chicken too!) In defense of prepackaged meats, and this is the only good thing I have to say about that, is that they are packaged in quality controlled environments in packing houses. Much cleaner and much more regulated environment than the store, back counter, or local butcher....not always...but mostly. I myself refuse to purchase meat at WalMart for the aforementioned reasons. It always helps to be an educated shopper, it's just a shame that this information isn't more well known by the general public.
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Aug. 13, 2010 10:56 am
I buy very little at Wal-Mart. The store near me in Omaha was recently re-configured. I have noticed that the selection of brands and variety of food items has been diminished. There ARE a few staple items (canned beans, vinegars Etc.) I will pick up if I happen to be in the store. Never do I buy their meat.I read an article once on their Cat Fish being raised at farms in China....FULL of antibiotics as they raise them in such crowded living conditions.I don't eat Cat Fish (LOL) BUT.... if that one item sold there is raised that way, who's to say their meat isn't full of antibiotics and hormones? My DH and I eat a very healthy diet limiting meats, and enjoy lots of fruits & veggies.The produce at Wal-Mart is ALWAYS sick looking and overpriced.We love the local Farmer's Markets for seasonal produce raised close to home. We are blessed to live where we do,as there are several grocery store options & all have wonderful sales because of "healthy competiton." As far as Wal-Mart's prices in general they are not cheap. Walgreen's Drug Stores has weekly sales and they let you combine their coupon with a manufactures coupon. I pick up name brand items like dish soap for next to nothing. No way can Wal-Mart come close to some of those deals. Wal-Mart is never my first choice for anything. My friends and I all miss the good ole days (Mid-Century)when we baby boomers shopped with our Moms.Consumerism was not the insanity it has become in America.We grew up in the Mid-West without Wal-mart and survived. We DO remember what customer service was and business valued their clientele.Thankfully, many of us are seeking options for our spending dollar that says "No Thanks" to the Wal-Marts of the world. Thanks to all of you, I know we aren't alone in our aversion to Wal-Mart.
Aug. 13, 2010 11:29 am
The Canadian Perspective: Did you know that if yu buy electronic goods from WallyWorld in Canada they don' come with a guarantee of ANY kind? That's right - they aren't CSA certified so you can't get a warranty (CSA = Canadian Standards Association). So for all those cheap TV's you'd better hope they never need warranty work. And I really don't know why we have 20 cash registers in our local store - only four of them are ever opened even at Christmas! Also don't plan on buying a watch over the lunch hour - that counter isn't serviced then and you will be told to come back later. Unbelievable!
Aug. 13, 2010 11:30 am
I've found it is cheaper for me to stock up on my meats when they are sale at Kroger than to buy them at Wal-Marts "low price"
Aug. 13, 2010 11:39 am
Being old school, I remember the days where WM proudly advertised they sold items made in America as much as possible. Now TRY to find an item made in America there. Through their own bulling of companies to push their factories overseas so they can lower prices. My father put in the majority of his life working for a company called Revereware (anyone remembers the copper bottom pots?)When they were approached by Wal-Mart to sell their items there workers were happy that increased production meant more jobs in our area and pay raises. But it never happened. Soon after the factory was sold to a company in China and then went out of business. Putting my father at age 58 out of a job. It will be a cold day in Hell before I will shop there. But I understand people who do in many areas places like Meijer and Target are not as close.
Aug. 13, 2010 11:48 am
Shellbell, your post about farmers hiring illegals and their children upsets me. I agree that it is very sad but please remember these workers were not FORCED to work here. They made a decision to come to the US (illegally)and work. Obviously those conditions must be better than in their country! The ones to feel sorry for are their children who don't have a choice in the matter! Anyway, great BLOG everybody! Very interesting to see all of the opinions!
Aug. 13, 2010 12:46 pm
Well if they paid the illegals AT LEAST minimum wage then maybe they would have a fighting chance,and so would their children. I agree no one forced them, but the people are trying to make a living. And on top of that if they were paid more, then they would not need as much welfare (food stamps, medicaid) because alot of the children were born here in the US so really its just ruining the whole system, working without paying taxes and sucking welfare from the government while people like me and you continue to pay for it. You can't take from the government without contributing, and thats one of the big reasons why Americas in trouble.How would you feel if you were them, would you just want to brush them off by saying no ones forcing you to work for a living for nothing? Do you think they like forcing their children to work in the hot sun for nothing? I know I wouldn't like it, and I don't understand how a farmer could allow such things and go to sleep at night. I don't agree with them being here illegally,however,I do give them credit for being hard workers. I think they are paid unfairly/unhumanely reguardless of their immigration status.It is up to the farmers/walmart to quit hiring them, which will stop the problem. But they won't, because the immigrants are the only people who are willing to work for nothing, and of course walmart and those good ole local farmers like that, its more money in their pocket! I can't believe that no one is doing anything about this.I think that the farmers and walmart should NOT allow children to work for pennies. PERIOD. The whole point in my posting the link is because people seem to put local farmers on a pedastal, they are so great etc. when really they are doing some of the same things walmart is doing, which is NOT helping ANY community. Any store that sells the crop of this madness is contributing to the problem, not just walmart. I did not intend to upset you, or anyone for that matter. I am not racist, and if you like to eat organic local food then thats great! If you hate walmart thats fine to, I'm sure you have your reasons. I do not want to push my thoughts/opinions on anyone, but at the same time I have always had strong opinions about topics like this, and I am always up for a good debate lol. There are so many different opinions on this blog that no one could ever be right or wrong, because everyone has an opinion.
Aug. 13, 2010 3:29 pm is short...
Aug. 13, 2010 4:00 pm
LOL I am breathing, I guess I just like to debate, thats all. I am very opinionated, but I guess I will just let it go, because reguardless of what I say it really doesn't make a difference.. But in the meantime, your right, I will breathe = )
Aug. 16, 2010 10:23 am
I am sssooooo enjoying your blog! I am kearning that competitive shopping at WM is more trouble than it is worth. The arguments from the cashiers wears me down.
Aug. 16, 2010 12:35 pm
I pay far less at any grocery store buying name brands, organics & whole foods than at Wal-Mart or a warehouse club when I combine their sales with coupons. I buy when a product is at it's lowest price whether i NEED it or now. Stop buying what you need - stock up when it's on sale/coupon and you won't need it next week.
Aug. 19, 2010 7:45 am
I agree with all of the comments about WM. There's no right or wrong opinions. I do shop there for some things. I don't buy the meat though. Shellbell go ahead and debate all you want to. At least for now we do still have that right!!! Thanks for this blog.
Aug. 20, 2010 12:59 pm
I thought Wallyworld was great prices...EEH, I went back to Hanaford and Pricechopper, fresher produce and meats... Yes the lines are way to long. And sorry but the staff is what wallyworld pays for. Dont care......
Aug. 21, 2010 12:04 am
I will never. ever. ever. again. buy meat from wal-mart. ever. I've never been a fan of their produce, I only get it there if I happen to be in the store for something else and need it. Great info. Thanks!
Aug. 21, 2010 12:34 am
first of all, i feel badly for all of you that have had bad experiences at wal mart. but i do believe that is the exception, not the rule. i have worked for walmart for 4 years and feel the need to respond to some of the allegations. i dont have any knowledge of tampering with the meat, but if you are going to make allegations like that you should quote you sources so people can verify the information themselves. as for how they treat employees, it is just about the same as any other large company. some managers are good, some are not. i happen to work in a wonderful store. the store manager treats the employees well. oh, yeah. the price matching. i am a cashier, so i do know about this one. no, we dont double coupons. we do match advertised prices from competitors. no the customer does not have to prove it. if a cashier asks you to "prove it" ask them to have a csm print store policy on the subject. the store is to keep ads available to verify prices if they dont believe you. i do agree there are stores that make it difficult on customers. i have shopped at some of them. as for "lower prices" wal mart strives to save you "over-all" on you shopping. no, we dont have the lowest prices on every item. never claimed to. oh, and the produce thing. i also believe i can get better quality on some fruits and veggies. so, i just buy smaller quantities more often. not a huge deal for me. because in the long run, i do save money. i know there are people who have had lousy experiences at wla mart. but is that really a reason to baselessly bash a store, maybe just because they are doing well? they arent out to get anyone. its actually a pretty decent place to work , and to shop. so please, if you are going to quote facts, state your sources. if cashiers give you grief, dont put up with it. as for a manager to make it right, right there. and if you still dont like walmart, dont shop there.
Aug. 22, 2010 12:57 am
Not out to get anyone? Why don't you ask the small towns that have been destroyed when Wal-mart swooped in, priced the mom-and-Pop shops out of business, then pulled out of the town, taking jobs and commerce with them, until all that's left is a ghost town? They pay wages, are engaged in a decades-long court battle over discriminating against women in employment and promotion, and have engaged in some of the slimiest employment practices, like requiring people to work 14 hrs, 6 of those OFF THE CLOCK, but only paying for 8 hours. Why don't you Google Wal-Mart + Houston + Lawsuit + 250,000. That was the dollar value of the settlement. As for the...person?...up-thread who lied about illegal immigrants "not paying taxes"--no, honey, they pay taxes. They pay sales taxes whenever they buy stuff at stores. Just like you. A lot of them pay rent, which goes into paying property taxes--just like you. Employers who hire illegals also have to pay federal taxes, Medicare and Social Security on each and every worker's wages--just like every other employer; they take it out of the wages "paid." They use false SS numbers to cover their trails, while the person associated with the number can't use it to claim SS or Medicare benefits or even file for tax refunds that they would most assuredly qualify for. But a housewife who never paid a dime into the system can draw SS and Medicare benefits. Yes, it makes so much sense for someone who contributed zilch to a fund a benefit to receive SS/Medicare simply for being born on a particular side of an arbitrary, imaginary line while the person born on the other side of that line who actually paid into the system but in can't get a dime back from it. Not a slam against housewives, who I'm fine with getting SS/Medicare through survivor pensions. I just don't like the hypocrisy of letting them have benefits, while denying them to people who actually pay into it.
Aug. 22, 2010 12:59 am
I guess AR doesn't like the word cr@p. I used it to describe Wal-Mart's so-called wages, but it was left out.
Aug. 25, 2010 7:24 am
Well I used to work somewhere where illegals worked and they were always paid cash, so no taxes were taken out. Yes they pay sales tax, but do they pay federal taxes? You know, that big chunk they deduct from our paychecks each week? They come to America and have children here, so they can get benefits for them. So they pay sales tax, I dunno if you pay federal and ss tax but here in Texas its alot, especially if your not on welfare. My daughter was denied pre-k in Houston due to the fact that 1.) she speaks english and 2.) we make more than 1200.00 a month. While the illegals children are filling up the school, because their parents have no documented income because they get paid under the table.So my taxes are paying for their food, insurance, and education, while my family has no insurance, or pre-k. I don't think thats fair, why should they be allowed to feed off of our taxes? Just because they pay sales tax? I don't know where you live, but here in Texas its a pretty big problem. I am not racist, I just think Uncle Sam needs to address this issue, either legalize them all or stop letting people cross the border illegally. I never lied.
Aug. 25, 2010 7:26 am
Oh yea, and most illegals don't have a SS# to use, most just work for cash illegally. Trust me, I know, I live in Texas, right by the border. The ones who do use fake socails are few, compared to all who just work for cash! Open your eyes, sales tax is nothing compared to federal social security and medicaid.
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