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Dead End Drive Thru...... Shame on you "Jack". 
Dec. 19, 2010 2:19 pm 
Updated: Jan. 4, 2011 3:43 pm
Have you seen this Jack in the Box commercial?  
Known for their humorous - rather edgy commercials - I don't think this is funny at all and sends the wrong message.
I have included the link to the commercial below - watch it for yourself -
Here is my brief re-cap.   
Woman comes home from the grocery store with $200. worth of groceries.  Jack say's, "Two Hundred Dollars - that isn't saving money.  We can get a Bonus Jack, fries and a coke for $3.99 - they have desserts too." 
This is outrageous!  What?  Are they hoping families will abandon the grocery stores and flock to Jack in the Box fast food to save money!   BTW - in those grocery bags she pulls out dessert, a candle, wine and a dog collar.  She certainly wasn't spending the entire $200 on healthy food for meals.       

Bonus Jack
2 regular beef patties, Jack's Famous Secret sauce, shredded lettuce, American cheese and a pickle on a 3 piece bun, Fries and a Coke.  for $3.99 + tax*
*In California fast food is taxed where as fresh food is not.   
Nutritional Information for the above meal.
Calories                1346
Calories from fat      474
Total fat (grams)        53  
Sat. Fat (grams)         15
Trans Fat (gr.)             1
Cholesterol (mg)      89 
Sodium (mg)        1880
Potassium               949
Carbs (grams)         194
Fiber (grams)             5
Sugars (grams         107
Protein (grams)        30 
The American Heart Assoc recommends that we aim to eat less than 1,500 milligrams of sodium per day.
For a person consuming 2,000 calories a day should consume about 250 carbs per day.
In this one meal - void of nutrients - contains more sodium than you should have all day and most of the carbs that you should consume in an entire day.    
From the CDC:
Childhood obesity has more than tripled in the past 30 years.
The prevalence of obesity among children aged 6 to 11 years increased from 6.5% in 1980 to 19.6% in 2008.
The prevalence of obesity among adolescents aged 12 to 19 years increased from 5.0% to 18.1%.
Type 2 diabetes in children and adults is on the rise.  Is there no wonder?
Two people spending a minimum of $8.68 a day / 7 days a week would spend 60.76 a week at Jack in the Box.  (Assuming they only purchased the $3.99 value meal advertised.)  That would cover one meal a day - not three. 
I can guarantee you that I could put a healthy dinner on the table every night of the week for $60.76
Who are they trying to fool?   This junk food is virtually poison.
Sadly - there are plenty of people that will buy right into this nonsense.  

Jack in the Box Inc. (NASDAQ: JACK), based in San Diego, is a restaurant company that operates and franchises Jack in the Box® restaurants, one of the nation’s largest hamburger chains, with more than 2,200 restaurants in 19 states. Additionally, through a wholly owned subsidiary, the company operates and franchises Qdoba Mexican Grill®, a leader in fast-casual dining, with more than 500 restaurants in 43 states and the District of Columbia.
The nutritional data quoted is from the Jack in the Box website - nutrition calculator.   
Dec. 19, 2010 2:30 pm
Thats horrible~! The food sounds horrible with that much fat~!
Dec. 19, 2010 2:35 pm
Piggyluver~! I find it so sad that families would rather drive thru and eat this garbage thinking they were saving so much money. When in fact they aren't saving anything and they are killing themselves in the process.
Dec. 19, 2010 2:38 pm
Ba'Nana - That was my reaction when I first saw the commercial as well - now fast food is what you should eat because it costs less than REAL NUTRITIOUS food. It exploits people struggling to make ends meet and who may not be aware of better nutritional choices for similar costs. Shame on Jack.
Dec. 19, 2010 2:42 pm
NMJ - there is a real misconception that healthy food is expensive. Processed / frozen food can be very expensive but eating healthy doesn't need to break the bank. You are right. Shame on Jack.
Dec. 19, 2010 2:44 pm
NMJ - I am stealing your "Shame on Jack" Hope you don't mind.
Dec. 19, 2010 2:57 pm
I am thinking that after the holidays that I am going to do a week of dinners for DH and I for $60.76.
Dec. 19, 2010 3:08 pm
OK - I just did the math for my daughter's family of 8 - Assuming they only got the $3.99 value meal it would cost them $242.99 a week for one lousy meal. She feeds her family 3 meals a day for about $250 a week. And she is feeding hungry teenage boys!
Dec. 19, 2010 3:15 pm
I haven't had the pleasure of seeing that bit of propaganda, we don't have many Jack in the Box here. But Mickey D has a similar commercial. It is a shame how many people buy into that nonsense. Funny, I live in a very expensive place to buy food and I could feed them for the 7 day period for the same or less too - and it would be real food, mostly organic.
Dec. 19, 2010 3:19 pm
BSM - I don't watch a lot of TV - it was my husband that told me about this one. I found it on U Tube. Haven't seen Mickey D's - I disowned McDonalds years ago while my kids were little. I know, "Mean Mom!"
Dec. 19, 2010 3:31 pm
That is shameful, and sad how many folks buy into that kind of advertising. I kind of wish they would ban fast food ads the same way tobacco ads were banned from TV and magazines. They both are so detrimental to our nation's health.
Dec. 19, 2010 3:32 pm
A woman is suing McD's because her kids nag her to go there all the time. Ridiculous! I hope she does not win. I think she needs a parenting class! I hardly ever eat out... I am addicted to fast food fries! :)
Dec. 19, 2010 3:38 pm
Now Shannon - that is ridiculous! Sigh.... My kids begged to - as we kept on driving! LOL.
Dec. 19, 2010 3:40 pm
And someone else made a million dollars dumping hot McD's coffee on herself and suing because the coffee was too hot!!! She won!
Dec. 19, 2010 3:41 pm
Wyattdogster - It is going to take a National awareness crusade to get America to wake up and kick the fast food habit. Our Carl's Jr has cars lined up 15 deep almost all day. If the cars stopped coming they would be out of business.
Dec. 19, 2010 3:42 pm
Makes you wonder what these folks are watching and reading. How can you NOT know how bad this food is for you and your children!
Dec. 19, 2010 3:47 pm
Touche BN :)
Dec. 19, 2010 3:48 pm
One of the woman that I am helping to learn to cook grew up on Fast Food burgers and Pizza. She never had fresh vegetables. Her husband hired me to work with her before the birth of their baby. She has come a long way BUT still craves fast food. Sad - really sad.
Dec. 19, 2010 3:49 pm
Hi Maui - have you seen this commercial? Outrageous!
Dec. 19, 2010 3:50 pm
Ugh, I HATE this commercial! It makes me so mad every time I see it...
Dec. 19, 2010 3:53 pm
Me too Kricket - which lead to this blog. :( I was hopping mad. Hubby just smiled and said, "I knew that would get you!"
Dec. 19, 2010 3:54 pm
I've never liked any of the Jack in the Box commercials, but that one takes the cake. I can make a MUCH more nutritious meal at home for myself AND both of my kids and only spend about $5.00 doing it! I think we all need to write letters to Jack in the Box and tell them just what we think of their little bit of propaganda. I'm not saying I don't enjoy a fast food meal now and again, but for them to suggest that fast food is preferred over real, wholesome groceries prepared into healthy meals at home is ridiculous!
Dec. 19, 2010 3:54 pm
I'm sure this advertisement actually "works" sad.
Dec. 19, 2010 3:58 pm
Keri - I thought about writing but then I thought about doing this blog. I am going to do another one - featuring 3 meals a day for less than Jack in the Box! I can't say that I have never eaten at Jack's but I won't any more! I disowned McDonalds and never went back - looks like Jack will have good company.
Dec. 19, 2010 4:01 pm
Oh Kricket - it does work! Did you see Food Inc. In there is a segment on a family who is over weight and thinks it's cheaper to eat FF. It shows them in the store - saying "No, fruit - it's too expensive...." Then driving down the road with burgers and fries. Garbage!
Dec. 19, 2010 4:01 pm
That's a great idea, Baking Nana! I'll be looking forward to that blog! :)
Dec. 19, 2010 4:02 pm
YES! I have seen Food Inc.! I immediately thought of that scene when I first saw the Jack in the Box commercial.
Dec. 19, 2010 4:03 pm
Keri - like you I can put a great meal on the table for $5. or less. Do I shop sales - yes. Do I stock up when things are cheap = yes. Do I shop in the freezer case - Never. Jack is a liar!
Dec. 19, 2010 4:24 pm
I've seen that commercial before and never thought about it saying Jack n Box was cheaper than regular food. Until I read this then it kind of clicked. Oops :) Its not a good message to be putting out there. And if I tried to feed my family on Jack for a week even with the 3.99 special I'd go broke. I don't spend 20 dollars a day on food. It is so not cheaper. Not to mention extremely unhealthy. And I think I do pretty good feeding my family healthy food on my budget. Sure there is room for improvement I'm not perfect. But I try. Its sad that some will believe that Jack is the better way to go. I do love their ultimate bacon cheeseburger though. Mmmm Good! Only 2 times a year for that particular sandwich though. And I have to share with hubby :) Baking Nana I banned McD's a couple of years ago, my kids asked about it for about a month after that but they stopped and still don't ask for it. I did hear about the lady suing them and I think it is ridiculous she needs to learn to say no. She is the Mom.
Dec. 19, 2010 4:45 pm
Thanks for stopping in Rae and thank you for admitting that the real "message" of this commercial didn't click. I am not going to say that we never go out for a burger....we do - hubby loves them. When we go out we try to go to a Mom and Pop place.....they really need the support of the community. As for McD's my kids, grandkids and my hubby know better than to even suggest stopping. As for those parents that can't say "NO" I say, "Grow a backbone!"
Dec. 19, 2010 7:07 pm
The first time I saw the commercial, I started doing the math.. it's more expensive for the two of them to eat at Jack In The Box.. at that pace, they will need a larger dog collar :)
Dec. 19, 2010 8:16 pm
LOL - so true BellesAZ.
Dec. 19, 2010 9:20 pm
Baking Nana you bring up a wonderfully informative and Yes sad blog on the state of what we peeps will eat if it is cheap and fast. I We do eat at yes, Jacks but not very often and it is Expensive!! I have 6 folks to feed. That is at Least $35-40. I made a whole pan of enchiladas last week for 8 people for about 10 bucks! That was chicken leftover from 2 days before! add another buck and a half and I have rice too! Very little fat and oh so flavorful. There was even leftovers for DD's wor the next day. she shared it with her friend as well. Pretty good for a lil old bird! Thanks BN, Hugs and know that your blog is an education on good,healthy, nutritional food:)
Dec. 19, 2010 9:46 pm
Patty - Your chicken enchiladas are the perfect example! $10 - 12 dollars for enchilada and rice for 8 people - can't argue with that. Left overs (lunches) too! Anyone who says that you can't feed a family "real" food cheaper than FF is just plain lazy or ignorant.
Dec. 20, 2010 12:16 am
Totally in agreement B'Nana....we do not have any Jack in the box stores here in Canada, but we do have our fair share of other fast food joints with their calorie-laden, high fat foods. I am proud to say I have not eaten at any fast food in 30 yrs, recognising long ago that it was a huge waste of money and huge issue for our health. Yes, my kids whined that they wanted to go to McDonald's when they were younger, but I refused, occassionally Grandma sneaked them but for the majority of their lives growing up, they ate healthy food. My daughter is now a vegetarian and detests fast food with a passion, unfortunately my son is the 'meat-a-tarian' and has fallen into the habit of eating junk regularily, although with him being 25, my influence is now almost zero with him.... but at least myself and my husband are junk food free and healthier for it.... this commercial is absolutely disgusting....amazing what great marketing minds are out there preying on the public....buyer beware has never been more true. Good blog and I look forward to seeing more! Merry Christmas to you and your family! Enjoy a happy & HEALTHY holiday meal! ;)
Dec. 20, 2010 6:07 am
You think that's bad? I'm living in the country that has the highest consumption of KFC per capita in the World...and with only 1.3 million people in the population.!!!
Dec. 20, 2010 6:25 am
Well, I think there are places in this world for all sorts of eating choices and it's up to US as parents to regulate it and learn to say no to our children who insist on eating there. There isn't anything wrong with the "occasional" trip to McDonald's with your kids, but when I say occasional, I don't mean as a regular part of your diet. Just because you're a vegetarian DOES NOT mean you are necessarily eating healthy and that argument is a complete waste of time. Losing the toy in Happy Meals - is just another example of Nanny laws designed to take away our ability to make choices (positive or otherwise) for our children and ourselves. Shame on us for allowing our government to control our lives like that - what's next? If we're so naive to actually believe that eating at a JIB will cost less than eating at the grocery store, then God help us all. Jack also has a commercial where he's sitting in a hot tub about to have three way sex and sitting in a dentist chair giving away free tacos.. I take all of them about as seriously as I do watching Scooby Doo and wondering if dogs can really talk!?! How about some commercials that praise the benefits of eating well... you don't see that too often, do you? Seriously, we need to educate Americans as to what good nutrition is.. some people think a hamburger represents four basic food groups.. seriously? Some, like my husband and myself, will use McDonald's as a stop along a roadside when we're traveling or if there is nothing else around.. and yup, on occasion I get a hankering for a Big Mac... but I know that eating too many aren't good for me.. duh, I can think for myself. Thank you very much.
Dec. 20, 2010 7:15 am
Thanks for stopping in Gitano. Having raised your children with an awareness of good nutrition will serve them well. Yes, the 25 year old will eventually return to his roots of healthy choices.
Dec. 20, 2010 7:17 am
AdeB - I had heard that KFC really has taken off in many countries. Here they had to stop using transfats - it has really changed their product. Do you know if this is the case where you are?
Dec. 20, 2010 7:22 am
Good Morning Ba'Nana, I saw the commercial last night. I absolutely hated everything about it! From the man with a round ball for a head to the implied dog collar comment. A hamburger that size with fries is deadly! I don't like fast food and never have. It's not a value and it never has been. The Nutrients (you really can't even call it that) list you shared is appalling. You very unwittingly hit my hot buttom. I didn't buy my kids fast food and I won't buy my grandkids fast food. It's one of the things I have very strong feelings about. Ooopppppssss! Did I just rant???
Dec. 20, 2010 7:26 am
And, everything BellesAZ said above. (just read her rant) You go girl!
Dec. 20, 2010 7:31 am
BellesAZ - you have a point - removing the toy from the Happy Meal isn't going to do a darned thing. Although you know that FF is void of any nutritional value - many many people really don't understand how bad it is. Many people really do think that they can't afford to eat healthy. In this economy to imply that FF is cheaper than a bag of groceries is irresponsible.
Dec. 20, 2010 7:40 am
Good morning Candice. This is a hot topic with me too. Thanks for your rant. My grandkids know to not even bother asking me for FF. They also know "why" I don't eat FF. If by chance we are out and must stop to eat I look for a Subway. They love Subway turkey sandwiches - they consider it a real treat. No fries, no soda - plenty of veggies to go with the turkey. Some of their friends eat FF twice a day and a school lunch. What a shame.
Dec. 20, 2010 7:47 am
Oh - and here is another rant. I had a discussion with a mother of three - she said that she is often "forced" to drive thru Carl's Jr. because of time constraints. When I asked her why she didn't run into Subway (same parking lot) she said, "Then I would have to park and get out of the car!" YIKES! If life is that hectic - something is very wrong.
Dec. 20, 2010 7:56 am
Subway is the ONLY place I will go or take the Grandkids to eat. They love that place too. No chips here either. And here's something unbelievable; they choose lemonade or water for a beverage. Their Mom is a teacher and very big on nutrition. They usually choose Subway Salads or the turkey sandwiches. Oh, brother, this REALLY, REALLY is a hot button for me. I just detest FF places. And, no... life is not that hectic. These Mom's have bought into all those commercials that are telling them their life is hectic. I will choose to go home and eat a peanut butter sandwich before I will eat at a FF joint.
Dec. 20, 2010 8:03 am
BN... I agree. In fact, when we were moving into our new house, I ran to McD's for a quick lunch for three adults.. it cost about $18.00. I guess I hadn't been there in awhile, but McDonald's offered their dollar value menu just so they could raise the prices on other things. Also, here's a tricky thing.. vegetarians often think eating McDonald's fries are a way to enjoy McD's and not violate their beliefs. In fact, at the factory where the fries are cut and pre-cooked, they are first soaked in beef broth to add flavor. They hook you into thinking they taste good as a vegetable and in fact, they are soaked in beef broth. Ewwww!
Dec. 20, 2010 8:04 am
Don't get me started! Says the one who gives an herb lecture every year the purpose of which is to show people how easy herbs are to grow and how much better they can make their homemade food taste while cutting down on the sugar, salt and fat. Makes you wonder how the commercial can be aired when the govt. is trying to regulate how many bake sales schools can hold just to cut down on childhood obesity. Great rant, I mean blog, Baking Nana!
Dec. 20, 2010 8:32 am
Thanks for the comments folks - here is another example of how accustomed our children are to eating FF. This past year my grand daughter (12) was hospitalized with Meningitis. The nurses were complaining that she wasn't eating and they called the hospital nutritionist to come and talk to her. They would bring her a tray with chicken nuggets, fries, pudding etc.. and she wouldn't eat. I went to the market across the street and came back with a pint of blueberries, a pint of cherry tomatoes, some cheese and a cup of vegetable soup. Guess what? She ate it all. When the nutritionist came in 'to have a word' with her she was amazed. She said, "Our children's menu is designed for children's tastes. We don't see many kids that will turn down chicken nuggets and fries."
Dec. 20, 2010 8:34 am
Cat - these commercials work! Until the public starts speaking with their wallets - they will continue to work. Sad, sad, sad.
Dec. 20, 2010 12:35 pm
BN, deep sigh! We are so on the same page! My teen thinks chicken nuggets are the ones that Mom has to take off the bone, bread herself then fry. He won't eat the others. Of course, he does make fun of me and says he has the weirdest mother in his class as he is scarfing down homemade junk food. Hey, I think Michael Pollan has something there. If you want to eat junk food make it yourself! Seriously how often will you go to that trouble? That is to make good junk food. Hey I'm with Shanon, I like fries! Again good topic!!!
Dec. 20, 2010 1:00 pm
Thanks for bringing this commercial to everyone's attention BN. The more the word gets out, the healthier (and happier!) we'll be as a nation. I quit fast food cold turkey about 7 years ago (and got off my butt and started exercising) and guess what!? I lost 65 pounds! Funny how that works...
Dec. 20, 2010 1:36 pm
Nancypants - thanks for stopping in. Amazing - 65 lbs! Good for you. I really wish more people would wake up and realize what the FF industry is doing to our health and our wallets. Cooking and exercise is as much a "habit" as Fast Food and video games.
Dec. 20, 2010 1:39 pm
Cat - thanks for stopping back by. I like the phrase, "Homemade junk food." :) Your son is a lucky boy.
Dec. 20, 2010 3:23 pm
Nana, I seen that commercial and could not believe that is even hit the air waves. We get several American channels and since I rarely pay attention to commercials, I figured it was just the way society was turning, and I was just getting desensitized. Glad that is not the case. Mom's for ages have been saying "Eat your veggies!" I believe it to be a worthy statement to carry on through the generations. It does make me angry to see a 6 pack of granola bars for 1.50 but 6 apples cost over 2.00:(
Dec. 20, 2010 6:06 pm
redneck gramma - yes Mom's having been serving veggies for years and rightly so. So what gives???? Now we have a generation of Fast Foodies and a second generation ear marked for diabetes and heart disease. I agree with you - that processed foods should not cost more than their fresh conterparts.....but I maintain if someone can spend $2.50 - $3.00 on soda they could choose the avocado's or apples.
Dec. 23, 2010 4:53 am
good morning and happy pre-x-mas eve. I came across this forum while perusing for a quick christmas meal and I just loved reading the crusade against these predatory commercials that basicaly prey on peoples lack of awareness. Just wanted to point out on now that the time of love is upon us that President Obama's wife, the First Lady has taken on the campain to educate our children and promote healthy eating awareness. Along with all the other achievements of this administration I have to bow by head in thanks; and for this care expressing forum...U go Baking Nana....
Dec. 23, 2010 6:52 am
Thanks JamesB - thanks for stopping in. You are so right....these commercials not only prey on the people who can least afford it - they prey on our children.
Dec. 23, 2010 7:09 am
I cooked Chicken and Dumplings last night for Daughter and Family. Teenage grandsons finished the whole bowl. And I didn't spend the price of two meals. I love to cook, and very seldom eat out unless I am lazy. Not much a restaurant can fix, that I can't. I'm glad I came across this blog, remind me not to take the smaller grandkids to Mikey D's anymore. It has cost us $20. + the last few trips.
Dec. 23, 2010 7:50 am
I haven't seen Food Inc. but Oprah did a show on it and there was a woman who said she couldn't afford to cook so they ate fast food instead. Last time I checked you can pick up a bag of potatoes for a few dollars, a Foster Farms chicken for about $5 and a bag of frozen veggies for a few dollars. Granted, they're not fresh but certainly better than fast food! We very rarely eat out, it's a treat that we consider costly. I hate soda and I hate fast food burgers, the most I can handle is a Wendy's chicken sandwich once in a while. My husband likes Carls Jr's burgers but he'll only eat it with my homemade french fries. For me, nothing can beat his homemade burgers on the grill...delicious!
Dec. 23, 2010 9:42 am
Well, we do live in a free country where companies have the right to advertise and we have the right to choose whether or not to buy into it. Isn't it great that we have that choice? Unfortunantely there are those who would rather we didn't...
Dec. 23, 2010 9:56 am
I have seven kids and it is not saving money to feed them fast food. Where do they get their numbers? $200 worth of groceries will usually last us a week and a half for a family of nine! I worked at Jack before and though they are very clean healthy is not one of their traits but I think that is with all fast foods.
Dec. 23, 2010 10:16 am
bhs - your meal is exactly what I am talking about - it doesn't cost a fortune to eat a wholesome meal at HOME. :) Just a bit of planning.
Dec. 23, 2010 10:18 am
VWill - it is a common myth that the poor you can't eat healthy - Yes they can - they just have to learn to cook!
Dec. 23, 2010 10:20 am
julieb125 - I totally agree, this is a free country - government control won't cure this problem. Just as FF places are free to operate and advertise - I am free to spend my $$ else where and preach about avoiding FF. :)
Dec. 23, 2010 10:22 am
crystal - with a family that size it would cost you a fortune to get FF. I singled out Jack because of this comercial....they are no better or worse than any other FF restaurant.
Dec. 23, 2010 11:20 am
I have seen food inc. and that family made me sooo sad! I wanted to find that woman and say honey let me help you cause trust me you can eat way healthier @ home and spend WAY less money! Also the husband/father already had health issues that fast food and soda aren't helping. It makes me soo sad that people are so misinformed that they really believe ff is the cheaper way to go. I'm not saying we never eat out but it's rare and we usually go to local mom and pop type places cause I like supporting them. I feed my family of four 3 meals a day (lunches are "brown bagged" so kids and hubby take to work/school)for around 100/wk. One of my biggest helpers in doing so has been a wonderful cookbook called Cheap Fast Good. It's written by Beverly Mills and Alicia Ross and there's lots of fabulous tips and recipes to help keep your grocery bill low.
Dec. 23, 2010 12:07 pm
lmh - thanks for stopping by. I think that there are many people who LIKE FF and want the excuse that it is cheaper than cooking at home. Health issues - it is easier to blame it on the cost rather than change their diet. Just my opinion.
Dec. 23, 2010 12:33 pm
BellesAZ, not only are the fries at McDonalds soaked in beef broth to improve flavour but they are also dipped in tallow to preserve crispness longer after frying.. This is wat so turned me off McDonalds, ewww..
Dec. 23, 2010 1:10 pm
Cuppy -I am with you - tallow - ewwwww! Thanks for stopping in. Hope you are well. :)
Dec. 23, 2010 1:23 pm
People who are worried about the cost of fresh food need to take into account the cost of the medicine that will eventually come into play from eating fast food with all the harmful ingredients they put into it. The food industry puts a lot of unnecessary sugar, salt, fat and enriched flour in their products and these are very addictive substances, especially the sugar and white flour. That's why the fast food drive-thru lanes are always full. I am ashamed to say that I let my son have it when he was young. He is now an obese adult and has a terrible time trying to recover from it. I have lost 50 lbs by taking out sugar and white enriched flour out of my diet. I pray he will be able to let go of those substances very soon. I didn't know any better back when he was a child, but we all do better when we know better.
Dec. 23, 2010 1:29 pm
Treasa - I began my boycott of McDonald's when my children started crying and throwing temper tantrums if we didn't stop. I put a stop to that one day when I realized that I had inadvertantly created FF monsters. Adults will crave what they grew up eating - my hubby grew up on fried everything and to this day - fried foods equal comfort.
Dec. 23, 2010 2:17 pm
Ba'Nana: I am glad for your blog. Maybe it will "reach" someon who hasn't quit FF yet..but they will with a little inspiration! Keep it up (preaching it). BTW: My in-law parents went to Sweden with us. The first thing they wanted was to stop at McD's of all places! Sweden is not saturated with restaurants as it is here. Everytime I travel with any of them, they swing through a McD's. Sickens me.
Dec. 23, 2010 2:20 pm
0h- I like the "Dead End Drive Thru" phrase. You could end up dead much sooner being a regular customer.
Dec. 23, 2010 3:03 pm
Hi Maureen - I had to laugh at the McD's in Sweden. Years and years ago - before we met my DH lived in Holland - guess where he ate? Yep - McD's...... sigh... When each of kids turned 13 I took them to Europe the rule was that we would eat in local pubs etc... They actually had fun trying to decipher the menus. :) BTW - the title "Dead End Drive Thru" was intentional. I stole "Shame on you Jack" from NMJ. Merry Christmas!
Dec. 23, 2010 3:41 pm
Just came to check back in and read the new comments because this subject is so near and dear to my heart. One thing I wanted to point out BakingNana, fried foods need not be evil! I ate many, many fried foods when I was little but they were fried at home. Frying is not the evil here IMO. Fish and chips was an English staple when I was little and we were so far from fat or unhealthy. Every Sunday my mom fried potatoes in oil and they were delish! I make homemade french fries and we fry our own tortilla chips often:)
Dec. 23, 2010 3:43 pm
Ooops, hit the post button accidentally. But I don't think it's the frying factor although there is a technique to frying...if done properly it's not supposed to absorb too much oil. But with fast food, I think there are so many additives and so much sodium. It's way beyond the fact that anything's fried.
Dec. 23, 2010 5:11 pm
It's $3.99 for ONE MEAL, dude! Unless I'm counting wrong, there's 21 meals a week to make and eat. 84 meals a month. It's way cheaper to cook at home, and healthier too.
Dec. 23, 2010 6:30 pm
intelligent folks tend to ignore ads like this, other folks get upset over it.
Dec. 23, 2010 7:49 pm
I couldn't agree more, BN!
Dec. 23, 2010 7:57 pm
I created an account on here just prompted by this post. While I already knew all of the information in the original post, what is surprising to me (somewhat)is the claims made by many commenters about how easy it is to make affordable and healthy food for families at home. I am aware of how much more cost effective it is, but I am very young and I am still starting out in the cooking business, I would love to be let in on all of the 'secrets' of cooking effectively; and stretching a dollar. I do not really have a mother, grandmother, or father etc. who do cook at home and know all of these 'tricks'. Cooking at home sadly is becoming an endangered part of daily life and less and less people are doing so. If anyone of you experienced ladies or gentleman would be willing to contact me and share some of your wisdom, I would be appreciative to hear what you have to say.
Dec. 23, 2010 11:30 pm
Dixie - my point exactly - Thanks for stopping in!
Dec. 23, 2010 11:42 pm
VWill1968 - not to say that all fried foods are horrid - but a steady diet of fried food just isn't sound nutrition. The awareness & elimination of transfats is making a huge difference - being thin should not be the ultimate goal....being health should be.
Dec. 24, 2010 12:47 am
TheDad - Are you an Ad Man? to quote you "intelligent folks tend to ignore ads like this, other folks get upset over it." This is true arrogance at it's best and arrogance diminishes wisdom. You may choose to stand by and stay silent - I am not. Be it from the Jack in the Box commercial - to the "Food Inc." segment on the poor family with health issues who think they can eat 'cheaper" it is a LIE. I know it - you may know it - but what about those people who grew up in the FF lane? How do they learn sound nutrition? How do they learn to cook? Is that why they come to AllRecipes?
Dec. 24, 2010 1:08 am
kdstarr - First -thank you for stopping in - joining us and commenting. You are so right - the Fast Food lane is so easy - especially when you are tired and weary. Cooking at home takes planning - thought and a commitment. You need to shop sales - read your grocery ads - have plan. You can do it!
Dec. 24, 2010 1:11 am
Great blog Nana - too pooped and overwhelmed to say any more (= Btw - the sky is beautiful and clear tonight!
Dec. 24, 2010 5:46 am
It's fair to say that the marketing here is simply evil. Yes, you could eat rather well (in all meanings of the word) for under $100 per week for a family of three. I was even kind of shocked to find that McD would be even "healthier" than JiB. It's not the cholesterol that worried me, since the RDA is 300mg, but the salt was WAY big! And that's for any fast food! Keep in mind the marketing, though. These companies that we all seem to be invested in (stock, pension, mutual funds) do and say things that we as individuals would consider immoral and evil, yet these are the words being spoken for us just to pull in a buck... let they who is without sin cast the first stone - and I'm tired of doing it!
Dec. 24, 2010 6:05 am
Maybe we are all being a little too sensitive, perhaps? I mean, if I actually take to heart the true meaning of a Jack-In-The-Box commercial, then I'm pretty much too stupid to drive a car. You should be smart enough to know better than the message they are putting out there. So, my recommendation is to get the humor, get past it, and get on with your Holiday. You will enjoy it much better, believe me. Merry Christmas to All.
Dec. 24, 2010 6:25 am
I like the premise of the post, but we need to understand what a healthy home cooked meal is before we criticize Fast Food. Maybe it has been said, but if we are substituting meat, gravy, veggies cooked in butter, and bread, these meals are not better than a fast food meal. If there are no green or colorful vegetables on your plate when you eat, then we might as well eat fast food. Too many eat "brown food" and mistakenly believe that since they are eating it at home, then it's healthy. This is a topic I have been passionate about for 14 years now, and my kids love their vegetables and healthy food--my 16 month old's favorite juice is Bolthouse Farms Green goodness smoothie--full of pureed green veggies and fruit. Just offering another perspective....
Dec. 24, 2010 6:27 am
Oh, and read or watch Fast Food Nation for an eye-opening look at that industry--blech!
Dec. 24, 2010 8:06 am
Keith - To paraphrase Edmund Burke - "In order for ‘evil’ to prevail, all that need happen is for ‘good’ people to do nothing." You go ahead and stick your head in the sand - childhood obesity is a becoming a national epidemic. That is a FACT. Is the fast food industry entirely to blame - No but it is a major contributing factor.
Dec. 24, 2010 8:23 am
Omg chill out. Its JUST a commercial. If you dont like it then change the channel. There have been WAY more offencive commercials out there. Get a life. If you want to pick on a fast food place, pick on Mcdonalds. NOW THEY ARE OFFENCIVE!
Dec. 24, 2010 8:30 am
Who really cares? It is a commercial. If you want news, read a paper. It bothers me that so many people seem to think that poor=dumb. Some of the comments are more offensive than the commercial. Besides, you didn't get the reference to the bondage/masochism with the dog collar? That is more offensive to some than the food. It was a joke people. This is a free country, meaning the information is available if you look for it. Stop thinking that because someone watches a commercial that they are 'programmed' and thus will go out and purchase fast food. Also, just because someone eats something that is homemade, it doesn’t necessarily mean that it is the pinnacle of nutrition. Get a hobby, read a book and stop trying to find a forum to shoot off your mouth about what other people choose to eat. At least we live in a country that affords us the opportunity of choice. I think some people would love to control everything under the guise of helping their fellow human.
Dec. 24, 2010 8:31 am
jrbaker - you make a good point - a home cooked meal doesn't automatically mean healthy - especially if that meal comes from processed foods. (I wrote another blog on that - The Freezer Case" I consider myself fortunate to love vegetables - I thank my mother and father for that. Good nutrition starts at home. Merry Christmas and thanks for stopping in.
Dec. 24, 2010 9:03 am
surfgrl40 & sarahison - It is just a commercial - offensive in more ways than one. This is a free country and I am not advocating government control - I am advocating "parental control" Poor does not equal Dumb and I never implied that - yes - that is also offensive.
Dec. 24, 2010 9:41 am
Sarahison - As you, not so eloquently stated, this IS a free country - I am entitled to my freedom of speech, as are you. It is a two way street. Discussion and exchange of opinions are good things. There is no need to get hostile.
Dec. 24, 2010 9:56 am
Nina, More or less the 'poor' comment and criticism for the comments was aimed at the forum, particularly NMJ (The third post down) and not at you. The control freaks came out of the woodwork with this one. You merely presented information. I grew up poor and we rarely ate fast food. People who did grow up poor know poor people for the most part don't eat fast food because it is too expensive. We made much of our food from scratch. We couldn't afford the convenience of purchasing much of it. We raised animals, had a garden and even supplemented our meals with god forbid what we caught, shot or trapped. I had it easier growing up in the country than some of the poor families I deal with on a daily basis. When you are working two and sometimes three jobs to make ends meet, it is difficult to think clearly and even plan a meal. I have a recipe for many on this forum. Let me know how this one turns out. Take a well-adjusted intelligent adult; give them three jobs, two kids a ramshackle house in a bad neighborhood with a leaky roof and tell them to plan a HEALTHY meal. Most of you would throw up your hands after two days. Most of the time, you worry about getting a nap whenever you can when you work that much. I know because I have been there. Try working nights, days, weekends AND STILL not making the bills. Planning meals takes on a whole new face. JUST eating is important for most of these people. Shame on those people who implied poor and working poor families are ignorant. Poor people have, in many cases, a better handle on what their finances are than other social classes. If those people who want to criticize a social class for propagating the ‘obesity epidemic’ (philosophically flawed and morally wrong to criticize ANYONE’S food choice), criticize the middle and upper middle class. On another note, I would challenge those people who buy into the ‘obesity epidemic’ to look into how that information is tabulated. I have worked at a news gathering institution and saw how flawed information sent to print can be. Those of you enlightened keyboard jockeys out there who want a real story about the ‘obesity epidemic, look at the way the numbers are tabulated. Look at who is actually considered ‘obese’.
Dec. 24, 2010 10:14 am
Ba'nana is not complaining about a commercial. She initiated an important discussion!! Isn't interesting about the ambivalent responses? Or how 'bout the hostile ones? They could not give hoot, so why do they bother to comment?
Dec. 24, 2010 10:25 am
Quote from Maureen- Is not interesting about the ambivalent responses? I couldn't agree more, even though your grammar needs some work.
Dec. 24, 2010 10:36 am
The hallmark of Jack in the Box commercials is their ridiculousness. If you're dumb enough to take advice from a giant foam head, you deserve the consequences of following it. As for me, J in the B is the only fast food hamburger I'll eat, the three or four times a year I do that at all.
Dec. 24, 2010 10:48 am
@sarahison, If this blog helps ONE PERSON to eat more veggies then hooray. Your second post is easier to read as you discuss your perspective but you sound frustrated. Nana's is relevant too. Lots of us appreciate the forum. The validity of data on obesity would be interesting to understand. Yes data does get skewed. However, I think the correlation between obesity and FF habits is not outrageous and probably likely. AR has helped me a lot to eat more vegetables. Thank goodness we have many wonderful cooks on here who share their knowledge and post inspiring blogs...makes me want to eat a vegetarian lunch...Merry Christmas!
Dec. 24, 2010 10:52 am
And to Wyattdogster, the woman won that case because McDonald's decided to serve their coffee at 180 degrees, about 40 degrees hotter than anywhere else. When she opened the container it spilled at gave her THIRD DEGREE burns on her lap, groin, and rear. That's hospitalization and skin grafts. McDonald's had no regard for the safety of the consumer, they didn't care! She was actually found less than a quarter at fault, so her award was reduced. McDonald's appealed but they settled before it went back to court. They won in the court of public opinion, though, since the case is now thrown around as an example of frivolous lawsuits (which abound in our country!). The case is Liebeck vs McDonalds if you want to have some more facts on the case, lectlaw dot com is a good source. Popular "knowledge" is not a good source. OK back to dissing J in the B!
Dec. 24, 2010 10:52 am
@Sarahison, LOL, I am not proofreading so bear with my "humanness"
Dec. 24, 2010 10:55 am
Get a life!!!! It's a commercial, they're trying to promote their product. Be concerned about a real problem like kids who get nothing to eat...jerks
Dec. 24, 2010 10:56 am
Dec. 24, 2010 10:57 am
Sarah - thank you for stopping back by. Good food for thought. There are parts of Los Angeles were you would be hard pressed to find a grocery store yet there is a FF joint on every corner. Actually the City of LA has place a moratorium on opening any new FF or convience stores. This is NOT going to solve the problem but I do understand the intent. Why aren't there more grocery stores? - Because they operate at a loss in the inner city. There is no financial insentive for them. Interesting too is that many consider the word "obese" a slur - it is actually a clinical definition, based on the amount of body fat to height and age & gender. Actually you hit the nail on the head about the middle and upper middle class - SUV's line up from dawn till midnight at the drive thru near here. Believe me these families can afford to eat healthy - they choose not to shop / plan and cook. It isn't a priority. To see the Mom getting her manicure and pedicure done while her chubby children are parked in the lobby with bags of fries, burgers and sodas for a "snack" is actually quite common. I find this trend is deeply disturbing.
Dec. 24, 2010 10:58 am
Ketchup full of preservatives and high fructose corn syrup(sugar) is listed on school menus as a vegetable. Now that's a joke. Eating at JITB is a choice, for most kids eating a school lunch is not.
Dec. 24, 2010 10:58 am
When you get 30 minutes for lunch, need to drive to get it, order it, pay for it, eat it and get back to work, the softness of Fast Food can't be beat. Can you name an alternative for the masses? Not everyone wants or needs to chomp on a head of broccoli. You had your chance to stop this in the 1950's but instead you embraced it. Don't sit and complain, come up with a viable alternative! Whiners.
Dec. 24, 2010 11:04 am
Drewbaby - there is no need for name calling. Yes, there are children and adults that will go to sleep hungry tonight - that is tragic & plain just shouldn't happen. But if I were to be able to feed those children - it wouldn't be with Fast Food.
Dec. 24, 2010 11:08 am
Response to Nina, three above-You are right. I work in the intercity. There is not a grocery store with in 10 miles from where I work. I see parents trying to plan healthy meals taking the bus and cabs to the 'burbs' so they can get 'good' food. My criticism lies with the people who don't get it and think the poor are uneducated and thus don't understand that eating burgers and fries all the time is ok. And by the way, the smiley, was aimed at Maureen for the grammar response. I just couldn't post fast enough. To clear something up, my posts ARE frustrated. It is frustrating to read posts from people who don't have a clue as to WHY some people make the choices they make.
Dec. 24, 2010 11:11 am
Again, slow on the button, four above.
Dec. 24, 2010 11:12 am
nikkitlr - valid point! Sadly those school lunches are the one meal some children can count on. I know our local school district has actually changed their lunch program - a huge improvement. :)
Dec. 24, 2010 11:48 am
OZ - No name calling! You are joking, right? There is a solution - it's called pack a lunch! My bro is a type 1 diabetic - has been since he was 4 years old - every night, for as long as I can remember, he packs a lunch. Believe me it takes longer to drive through than it does to pack a healthy lunch.
Dec. 24, 2010 12:23 pm
I think the commercial's being taken way too seriously. He's talking to his wife, not going up to some random housewife saying "Eat fast food! It's cheaper!" It's just in good fun.
Dec. 24, 2010 1:25 pm
When last I looked it was pretty much a free country and people need to be concerned about their house only...Mother could never tell me what to do and I don't presume to tell other people what to eat, wear, drink or smoke...It is none of my business. Anyway, it is only a commercial
Dec. 24, 2010 1:29 pm
Just to add... my husband went to Penn State and ate Mickey D's for 4 yrs...Had a 32" waist!
Dec. 24, 2010 1:59 pm
I was taught the basics on cooking when I was about 8 years old. During my teenager years I have eaten a lot of fast food. Now being in my 20's I realize how bad that food can be..but there are healthy alternatives to eating the fried food. Getting grilled chicken on a salad is a healthy way to go!! However..I noticed in this commercial how they only advertised the cheeseburger, fries and a soda. If they would actually advertise a salad instead of the burgers etc, the commercial may not actually be that bad. What happens is when they show the burgers, etc people start craving them..and they go get the food that day or the next day!! It is just a mental thing they are doing to the consumers. Reminds me of the Burger Tycoon Game.. @Wild...eating food that like that will catch up with him later..just because one is skinny doesn't mean they are healthy!! Skinny people have health problems just like the obese do! Just because of what the person looks like on the outside doesn't mean they are healthy..being obese isn't the best thing to be..but being at a healthy weight and being healthy internally go hand in hand.
Dec. 24, 2010 2:38 pm
@Sarahison, You brought up a big hurdle to the "poor" eating more healthfully. It is a good point. Access to the stores with the fruits & veggies, beans, etc is really a problem for many poor people. I wonder if anyone who has blogged here can do 1 positive thing for people in that situation. Many of us may not even KNOW someone that they could help. But I bet I could find a co-worker in that situation.
Dec. 24, 2010 2:51 pm
This is nothing new. Fast food/junk food stores have targeted lower income folks for decades. Since this is nothing new and not much has changed, I suggest if enough folks refused to spend their money at these joints, obesity and the accompanying malnutrition would not be a problem. However, people do spend their money at these places. I do not think it is an "outrage" for Jack in the Box to make such a commercial. Obviously it works - repeatedly. The best anyone can do is become informed on their own time. I don't expect a private fast food joint to educate me on nutrition and it is not outrageous that they peddle their junk - that's business.
Dec. 24, 2010 4:06 pm
When I was a single mother raising 2 preschool age kids, going to school full time and working full time, we NEVER ate fast food. We could not afford it, though once a month, we went and had pizza, sat and talked, relaxed, and enjoyed each other's company. Then, we were middle class. We ate more fast food, we could afford it. Now, I live on disability, quite poor and cook much more than I did. I truly believe that computer games, and cell phones are more of a reason for obesity. The kids do not exercise the way we did growing up. I know I was up from daybreak until the street lights were on running and riding my bike with the neighborhood kids. We ate at home, though not "healthy" by today's standards. I wish I knew the answer to the problems out there, but what I do know is that a commercial is not to blame. BTW, the kids still fondly talk about "pizza night"
Dec. 24, 2010 6:32 pm
Hi Choppie, When we visited Sweden my in-laws wanted to visit McD's because they like the food and their daughter, son-in-law are owners of Mc'D in the USA. The last place I wanted to go! Obesity isn't a problem in Sweden in general is it? I didn't see FF restaurants everywhere either. I think those FF commercials are part of the equation that = Obesity. Obviously food choices in general & low activity are greatly to blame. Glad to read your perspective.
Dec. 24, 2010 6:48 pm
Really people? I think, if anything, the woman shopping is showing that she isn't exactly a smart shopper and *that's* the funny part. For $200 she buys a dog collar and candle-it has nothing to do with food. Without going into the fact that in the short term fast food is usually cheaper than healthy food, especially if you live in a grocery desert,or that the time and prep is not something we all have, it's not a bad deal for fast food and it's supposed to be occasional food. It IS funny, because what reasonable person spends that much money on NON food items and then complains about the cost of food? I hope the commercial lady puts the fancy new collar on the dog and enjoys a Big Jack with her pooch by candelight. People need to lighten up and realize the difference between humour and manipulative marketing, which this clearly isnt.
Dec. 24, 2010 7:05 pm
@Baking Nana: What? Sticking my head in the sand? IT'S A FREAKING COMMERCIAL! You want to know who to blame for the childhood obesity problem? Try the PARENTS! They are the ones who are making the choices and paying for the food. Blaming JITB for the childhood obesity problem is like blaming your local grocery store for selling ice cream. No one is making you read the print ads for buy one half gallon of vanilla ice cream and get the second one free and then going to cash in the coupon. It's a choice the parent is making, not the grocery store forcing you to purchase the ice cream. It's a business. Getting back on subject, the big giant foamy head clown doesn't really care about your health. Again, anyone smart enough realizes that a Bonus Jack combo is not a smart choice for healthy living and I, for one, don't hold them accountable for it. Would I feed my kids fast food on a regular basis? No, because my wife and I know better. We know better based on what we consider common knowledge and not what a JITB commercial with sexual overtones says. Merry Christmas, Keith Augusta, GA.
Dec. 24, 2010 9:25 pm
Good grief - for it being a commercial, why are so many people jumping down Baking Nana's throat for a very valid point - after all, last I checked, it IS her blog. Typically, I fast-forward through a lot of commercials because they're so tasteless. But I have to say I'm with you on this one, Baking Nana. BTW - Merry Christmas!
Dec. 24, 2010 9:39 pm
Lot's of good discussion here. Keith - my point is - if JITB commercials didn't produce revenue - they would change their ads - I choose to spend my $$$ elsewhere. It is a commercial - it has also become EXCEPTED instead of scorned and rejected. To suggest that this has ruined my holiday - nope! Not by a long shot. Hopefully nobody reading this is eating JITB for Christmas dinner......yes, they are open. That is a subject for another blog! Merry Christmas.
Dec. 24, 2010 9:42 pm
Oh by the way, Keith - I already did a blog attacking the frozen processed junk the supermarkets stock - and you know why they stock them? Because the make tons of money on this junk. If people didn't buy this garbage - they wouldn't stock it.
Dec. 24, 2010 9:49 pm
The blog I was referring to -
Dec. 24, 2010 10:01 pm
ChrisW - thanks for your comments. People only get upset when a subject matter makes them a bit uncomfortable. Generally - a blog featuring healthy - homecooked food brings in a few comments - isn't that interesting? Maybe the subject of FF and processed frozen food just hits a little close to home. Peace on Earth - goodwill to all. :)
Dec. 24, 2010 11:39 pm
Hi Maureen! I have eaten at McD here, but only once or twice. I personally do not like their food, and there was a huge hubub when it was found out that people working at McD were making more than nurses! However, that is another topic. ;) Anyway, I like U.S. McD better, the taste is different. I do like to try restaurants here that I have been to in the States, but so far it is just them, others are WAY too expensive. There is beginning to be an obesity problem here as well, but I still believe it is lack of movement that is the cause of most of the kids. I was thin no matter what I ate before the W/C, when I could no longer be active and ate the same, I gained weight. In the last year I have lost weight, but I can only eat very little...
Dec. 25, 2010 3:06 am
Get a life! There are much more serious issues to expend so much energy on.
Dec. 25, 2010 3:23 am
BTW--ketchup is not considered a vegetable in school lunches. That was an idea put forth during Reagan's reign but not instituted.
Dec. 25, 2010 4:48 am
Ironic, isn't it? People saying "get a life" being obviously a tad upset at the audacity of others being a tad upset by a commercial...or at the very least discussing it. If you don't find the discussion worthwhile, move on...what compels you to tell others what is a viable topic? What dratted idea in your little head gives you the right to talk about "there are more serious issues"? Stuff that bogus, trite, and self-important attitude right back where it came from.
Dec. 25, 2010 5:09 am
That commercial is funny. A typical situation where a wife plans a romantic dinner, the wine,candle, whipped cream, strawberries and all the husband cares about is filling his stomach fast.
Dec. 25, 2010 5:32 am
You don't see the humor in this? The wine and dog collar seem like JITB's way of making the whole situation outrageous, which is what makes or breaks certain styles of humor. They're going out of their way to make sure it looks ridiculous, and you take that as a sign of deception? I really don't understand why, but to each their own.
Dec. 25, 2010 5:40 am
Also, do you really think anyone else is going to take this seriously? The math is easy, and the dog collar, candle, and wine give it away. Do you really think your fellow consumers are so gullible that they'd take an obvious joke as fact? I like these commercials. Jack's cocky and ridiculous attitude is charming. It's a refreshing change from the idyllic scenes of happy families and friends enjoying their big macs, etc.
Dec. 25, 2010 5:56 am
Choppie, you are absolutely right that lack of exercise is a huge factor in the obesity trend. FF is just one part of the problem. Like you, as a kid, we were all stick skinny and ate as much as we liked with out gaining an ounce. My kids growing up in the 70's and 80's into the 90's were much the same way. Nobody sat at home playing video games all day. Times have changed and so has the American diet.
Dec. 25, 2010 6:18 am
Sarah - it is ironic that this subject seems to have upset a few people. BTW - I don't delete those comments - they show the cross section of opinions and the trend within our culture to accept the unacceptable, as if they are powerless. I am one person - I don't expect to change the FF culture with this blog. I can express my opinion and speak with my $$$s. If this helps even a couple of people stop and think about the real cost of FF and processed frozen junk - to think about cooking a real meal for their family, then I will considered it a success.
Dec. 25, 2010 7:13 am
Absolutely! If you wanted to discuss your favorite brand of toilet paper, Baking Nana, then who is to say that is not worth discussing? After all, we can't ALWAYS discuss ONLY starving children and world peace! I don't understand popping in here only to say that this is a dumb thing to discuss....why don't they just state their opinion on the matter itself, or just move on? Sheesh.
Dec. 25, 2010 7:16 am
And, to make myself clear, I am not aiming the above at those who disagree with Baking Nana's take on the matter. Only with those who question her very right or veracity to discuss it!
Dec. 25, 2010 8:23 am
While I do feel that obesity is a huge problem in this country, I wonder at how effective this blog is in combating it...I wonder how many of you nutritional militants actually get out there and work to fight this epidemic? Have you sent letters to your school board? Your Mayor? Your congresspeople? I think some are missing the whole point here. Jack In The Box has put out a commercial in typical modern style. Trying to be humorous, condescending, and throwing in sexual innuendo is about the temperature of the younger generation today. If that's not problem enough for you, then you're barking up the wrong tree. Another problem with this? JITB has millions to spend on mass communication. Mom and Pop Healthnut have lesser means to blunt the message coming from JITB. If you don't like it, a few comments on a blog aren't going to change things. Educate your children, but educate your legislators and educators. Let them know that you refuse to allow obesity and all the health problems that come with it. Let them know that you refuse to let poor eating habits have an impact on your insurance rates. Start a non-profit organization that airs contrasting messages to combat the JTIB message if it has you so worked up. It's so easy to be an armchair quarterback, but yet so futile. To the guy that complained about a quick lunch: Ever hear of a lunchbox? It's far faster to eat your (healthy) lunch at your desk than it is to drive for 10 minutes to grab a fatbomb. I wasn't alive in the 1950s and if complaining about taking 30 minutes for a fast food lunch isn't whining, I don't know what is. To surfgurl: You should not use words that you can't spell correctly. If you spent a bit more time studying and a bit less time proving how vapid you are, people may take you seriously. To the rest of you internet activists, get out of your chair and join the real world...we need you! Oh, Merry Christmas. Put down the cookies cakes, pies, candies, gravy, and other fat foods. Christmas is no time to slack off on being a rigid health nut!
Dec. 25, 2010 8:58 am
Seriously? You folks are taking your roles as the chef in the household way too seriously. These commercials, nay- the fast food lifestyle in general- has been the status quo for quite some time. I put together a menu plan for my husband and I and we shop according to that plan every month to the tune of about $250. But the bottom line is that no matter how phenomenal a cook I am, sometimes I want some junk food. You can define how fast food affects your household, but don't expect to change the outlook of others unless you're willing to leave the comfort of your kitchens and get involved in teaching others the finer points of home cooking.
Dec. 25, 2010 8:59 am
Kermit, you made me snort on my coffee. The only pertinent thing I have to say in regards to your post (other than rueful giggles), is that if this blog makes ONE mother think for a moment before running to grab burgers for her family, then it IS a help. :)
Dec. 25, 2010 9:03 am
Why all these "requirements" in order to have an opinion, guys? Who says I can't use common sense and my own eyes to observe that the nutritional values to calories/fat ratio makes FF a poor choice. All of a sudden I need to start a non-profit or write letters or teach cooking classes? Maybe I will! :)
Dec. 25, 2010 9:09 am
I suppose I DID think of another pertinent response to you, Kermit. Using sarcasm to illustrate your view is effective, isn't it? You've made any person with a Christmas cookie in their hand look a right fool if they should happen to have an opinion about this subject. I don't quite think that eschewing FF makes one a "rigid health nut".
Dec. 25, 2010 9:20 am
Kermit - Thanks for your input. Actually I am a private chef - I am hired to provide healthy meals for families and couples who choose to avoid the drive thru. I also teach cooking - most of my private clients are young mothers who grew up in the FF culture and who now find themselves wanting to provide a better diet for their families - but don't KNOW HOW TO COOK. So - yes - I do get off my duff and try to educate those willing to learn. I have also volunteered my time to at a local Children's Home. These kids are being raised in an industrial setting - we planted a garden - harvested and learn to cook and eat the treasures that they grew. I taught a cheese making class for the Girl Scouts. you know what - some of these kids didn't know cheese is made from milk. So yes - I am trying to do my part. It is my hope others will do the same.
Dec. 25, 2010 10:40 am
Doesn't anyone else think the dog collar bit is a "little kinky?"
Dec. 25, 2010 12:15 pm
I run 4-6 days a week, lift free weights, and use an Elliptical on my shorter run days. Low cholesterol and BP. In other words, I'm healthy, then why do I feel the need to justify an occasional fast food run? Because people in this country think they must impose their choices on people and act superior when they see someone making less-than-healthy choices than they make. Jack in the Box uses saracasm to sell its products; they do it well. If you don't like it, it's simple - change the channel and don't buy their products. No one forces Americans to eat fast food; it is their laziness that drives them to the drive thru because it is cheap and convenient. We see fad diets come and go; the true key to success is moderation and daily exercise. For someone who pointed video games, again, moderation is key. Balance - it's a very simple principal. I love to cook and am advocate of home-cooked meals; however, some people don't cook (and it's for various reasons - think it's difficult, laziness, etc.). Again, that is the result of their individual choices; it will hurt them in the end.
Dec. 25, 2010 12:26 pm
We still have free enterprise in the U.S. People do still have the free will to make choices on what to eat, and on whether or not to educate themselves on what they are buying and consuming. Whatever happened to personal responsibility! If you don't want the fat and calories, etc. in fast food don't buy it! If people refused to buy their products, for whatever reason, they would disappear from the menu or change, all without help from those with a nanny mentality. Be thankful we still live in a country where we have freedom of choice.
Dec. 25, 2010 1:58 pm
Oh, NOW I desperately want some Jack in the Box tacos. Thanks a lot! I live in an area with no Jack in the Boxes, so I have no way of satisfying this craving. Those of you lucky enough to live near a Jack should appreciate what you have! I sooooo want a taco...
Dec. 25, 2010 2:11 pm
Lighten up people - you don't' have to eat at JB's. The commercial is much less suggestive than some of the network programs and other commercials. It sounds like you're all angry at something. Life is too short!! BTW - I changed the way I exercise and eat, and lost 55 pounds since April, 2010. I cook at home but since I work I often pick something up at Taco Bell, McD.s, JB. Still losing weight and happy about it. I definitely agree with the posting by rpilady2000.
Dec. 25, 2010 4:34 pm
I am an elementary teacher in California. We are getting concerned about obesity and are trying to educate our children in the ills of unwise eating. All of the children in my class were measured and weighed and 3/4th were considered obese. I would have said that there were some a little overweight and only one obese. These are the children who won't eat the fruit and often come into breakfast with a greasy tamale from the street vendors. I have had to make a rule that everyone MUST play the area game at recess and lunch or all of the girls would sit on the bench and color. This is a very long blog, but someone said that education starts with the parents, but in Cal. we are hoping that the children will educate the parents.
Dec. 25, 2010 5:22 pm
Nana, I live right over in Lake Elsinore from you and enjoy your blogs so much. I couldn't agree with you more. Even if Jack sold healthy products, his commercials are ridiculous. They get more raunchy all the fare? Do you suppose this is one of those marketing schemes aimed at getting us mad so the product stays on our mind, good or bad? I remember when JIB started up in the San Diego area. My brother and his wife were starving students at Cal State SD and JIB was a great help to them. They got reimbursed for eating there several times a month and filling out questionnaires about each visit. It was a small family run chain then that wanted to do their best for their customers. Days long gone.
Dec. 25, 2010 6:41 pm
My husband shared this commercial with me and we loved it! (Especially the dog collar...we are not kinky, but enjoyed the humor as it was intended.) Our family loves to eat out, but we love home cooking more. The ad appealed to the "family relations" we have developed in our home. Jack has a business to run, yes, fast food does have its place in our busy work world. His wife has a home to run with healthy cooking, a healthy intimate relationship with her husband, and working within a budget. I appreciate the freedom of choice that we have in American and shudder at the current trends of government and school to take our freedoms from us. We will continue to support Jack, watch his commercials, and keep buying those delicious two for 99 cents tacos (yum!!!)
Dec. 25, 2010 8:38 pm
If people would spend as much time minding their own business as they waste away worrying about what others are eating - there would be far less angry responses here. The only thing that gets my ire is someone with the audacity to tell me how to live. Spend a bit less time looking down your nose at others.. and more time with your own family. It's disgusting that there are changes forthcoming in our local schools where sack lunches will be inspected and/or monitored.. if what you pack for your kids isn't up to someone else's standards... they are forced to buy a school lunch. Are you kidding me? The world needs less Nannies looking out for my best interest and more people tending to their own lives. This is seriously frightening.. a Jack in the Box commercial is the least of our worries.
Dec. 26, 2010 8:04 am
this is a great post, you should link to it on the youtube video comments. or post the nutrition info!
Dec. 26, 2010 8:31 am
I think that it is really sad to have families prefer that you 'drive thru' to get a meal instead of going home and fixing something nutritious. The meal has 194 carbs, 1/3 of the calories is from fat, etc.....but we love ourselves and we love our children even more! NOT! I say, get off your fat asses, go to the store. But decent food, veggies. Take your fat off the couch and away from the television and get out and get some fresh air and exercise. We are going to be our own demise! We are teaching our children the wrong way to eat, and the cycle will continue with their children. We are one lazy, pitiful society!
Dec. 26, 2010 9:49 am
Okay, I see what you're saying, kind of. You have to remember though, that people who eat at Jack in the Box, don't care if they are saving money, nor do they care about their or their childrens diets. I personally don't eat fast food anymore, and when I did, I wasn't a fast food junky. But even I knew that no matter what the commercials told me, I knew that it was way cheaper for me to buy a bag of hamburger buns, a pound of beef, 1/2 lb cheese and the condiments and it would feed me plue 5 friends for $15! Oh and thats including sodas and fries. Anyone who is really interested in saving money, will not fall prey to such ridiculous commercials. And those who do, really again, aren't doing it to save money. They are eating there out of laziness and lack of care for their health or their families. So in short, I wouldn't worry about Jack tricking anyone into eating there to save money,and I wouldn't be so harsh on Jack.
Dec. 26, 2010 11:28 am
I don't eat fast food anymore myself, but my boss sends me to drive-thrus occasionally to pick up lunch for and I'm AMAZED by how expensive it is compared to brining lunch to work. One regular burger at Wendy's was $3.49 with no drink, no fries. That's crazy. That day I think I had leftover chicken and pasta and green beans for lunch, which probably cost me about a dollar for the serving. I have a two a half year- old daughter who has never been to McD's and I plan to keep it that way.
Dec. 26, 2010 11:29 am
That should read "bringing," not "brining" of course. Guess I've still got that Christmas turkey on my mind. :)
Dec. 26, 2010 12:17 pm
Baking Nana, I love how much effort you put into bring this information forward. We don't have Jack in the Box in Canada but we have all the equivalents - - McDonalds, Wendys, etc. So sad to think that many people buy into the idea that fast food is cheaper and, even if if was, that it should matter. It is so bad for you! Our kids love McDonalds as much as the next, but we say "no" except on occasion. We know it is not a good dietary choice and shouldn't be eaten often. I don't know how people can be so unaware of just how unhealthy these "meals" are. Thank you for posting.
Dec. 26, 2010 12:25 pm
Hot Coco - Thanks for posting. Very interesting! "All of the children in my class were measured and weighed and 3/4th were considered obese. I would have said that there were some a little overweight and only one obese." Sadly, some of these children will have to learn basic nutrition at school instead of at home. Maybe they can teach their parents a thing or two! According to Micheal Pollen - The Omnivorse's Dilemma - One in Three American children eat fast food every day!
Dec. 26, 2010 12:41 pm
LAMBIESGRAMMY - thank you for and posting and for the compliment. My goal isn't to tell anyone WHAT to eat - it is to raise awareness - to make people stop and think. Some people think that FF is unhealthy just because it is a burger or isn't fried. Not so....actually the meat patties in these FF burgers don't really even taste like beef. I have eaten my fair share of "junk" throughout my life time - fortunately my parents taught me to love veggies too.
Dec. 26, 2010 12:58 pm
Bradshaw - These children being raised in the Fast Food Culture may be the first generation that will not outlive their parents. You are right in we are going to be our own demise! We are teaching our children the wrong way to eat, and the cycle will continue. Thanks for your post.
Dec. 26, 2010 1:10 pm
Rita G - you are right that people who eat a steady diet of FF don't do it to save money, they do it because FF is what is the norm for them - but commercials like this certainly don't help dispell the notion that cooking "real" food is too expensive. I am harsh in regards to Jack - the commercials are not family friendly and the message is a lie. BTW - Jack was just my target this time - the FF culture is deadly.
Dec. 26, 2010 1:14 pm
shinesohard - good for you for not introducing your daughter to McD's. I bet your boss would rather have you lunch than that $3.49 burger. But then again - maybe not.
Dec. 26, 2010 1:22 pm
deannea12 - Thanks for stopping in and posting. I personally don't think there is anything wrong with an occasional FF meal - as long as everyday isn't an "ocassion". I suppose that most people who feed their kids a steady diet of this junk are just in denial or they are so "busy" that they just don't want to know. Actually the scene in Food, Inc. of the poor family who can only afford to eat FF didn't help dispel this myth.
Dec. 26, 2010 1:32 pm
There taking advantage of a mis-used study which found that junk foods are cheaper (calorie for calorie) than healthier foods. The study measured calories per dollar spent and didn't factor in nutrients or any other factor in food. Many people have misinterpretted the study to mean that its cheaper to feed your family with junk food than healthy food.
Dec. 26, 2010 1:49 pm
I had no idea what a topic this would be after first reading it. I personally bring my family out to eat maybe once a month. If that. I used to live off of fast food when I was a teen and realized how much I was blowing compared to what I could spend for homemade meals. Commercials like this do nothing for me (thank goodness.) I'm gonna keep on cooking my daily meals and maybe once and awhile we'll go out for a burger (especially if its been one of those days when even cooking won't make me feel better, lol.) Thanks for posting this - for me it was very educational. It wouldn't have hurt for me to have read this a couple years ago for sure! :)
Dec. 26, 2010 1:52 pm
Joylynn - Thank you for that. Growing by with a brother that is Type 1 diabetic afforded me a greater chance to learn about nutrition in much greater depth than my peers. My bro didn't eat a special diet - we all ate the same healthy food. BTW - I have thanked him for that! If kids don't learn about sound nutrition from their parents - where are they going to learn it?
Dec. 26, 2010 1:58 pm
Faith N - thanks for stopping in. You know you said something that really rang a bell "go out for a burger (especially if its been one of those days when even cooking won't make me feel better,..." I, like you LOVE to cook - but not everyone fact I don't have one client that enjoys cooking. One woman told me, "My mother was a horrible cook and I find no joy in cooking....just eating!" Thanks for your post. Now I have to figure out how to bring the joy of cooking to those who don't get it! :)
Dec. 26, 2010 2:02 pm
The goal of advertising is to get your message to many people and to stick in those people's minds. Apparently this was VERY GOOD advertising, as it has a lot of people talking about JITB. Anyone who makes important nutritional decisions for their family, like "abandoning the grocery store" and feeding their families fast food, 3 meals a day, has WAY bigger issues than fat content. I learned as a child not to believe everything I saw on TV. My PARENTS taught me that.They also taught me to eat well on a daily basis so that an occasional "burger" wouldn't kill me. Lighten up folks. There are more important issues going on in the world than a stupid commercial.
Dec. 26, 2010 2:08 pm
Lindad - this really isn't about a "stupid commercial" at least for my it isn't. It is about the entire FF Culture. You said it best - your PARENTS taught you to eat well - your PARENTS taught you not to believe everything you see on TV. Well - guess what a whole generation is being raised on FF - what are they going to teach THEIR children? Yes - Jack's commercials are just edgy enough to appeal to their target audience. I do understand that they aren't targeting women in their mid 50's who love it cook. :) Thanks for posting.
Dec. 26, 2010 2:09 pm
@RitaG, you really have no merit in generalizing why people go anywhere to eat. I ate at Jack in the Box about 6 months ago, but it wasn't because I didn't care about my diet or what I ate! See? This is what I mean.. there is a Nanny around every corner assuming they know what I'm thinking. Not every parent that takes their child to a FF place does so because they don't care. In fact, if you ask them, I'm sure they would say they care very much and go there occasionally, not as a steady diet. And trust me, I'm not lazy, so don't assume that people who eat in FF place are!!! Sometimes I just feel like having a Big Mac or some Chicken Tenders at Chick Fillet.. so please, generalizing people is wrong at just about every level. Sorry, but making those generalized statements about people is so ignorant and infuriating.
Dec. 26, 2010 4:55 pm
BellesAZ - I do believe that Rita was referring to those people who eat a steady diet of FF. Obviously an occasional trip to FF isn't going to kill you - a steady diet of FF sure could.
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Dec. 26, 2010 6:05 pm
You wrote: In California fast food is taxed were as fresh food is not. You should check your grammar before posting your blog. It will give you more credibility.
Dec. 26, 2010 6:30 pm
Sorry for the typo! (not grammer - spelling - none the less......) Now - do you have anything other than that to add to this discussion?
Dec. 26, 2010 6:45 pm
Correction made - Thank you.
Dec. 26, 2010 9:48 pm
I have an obese, diabetic co-worker who eats out almost every meal. Her costs for food, for two people exceeds 1000.oo per month. This cost does not take into consideration the healtcare costs that she incurs because of her obesity and type two diabetes that is directly related to her obesity and poor diet.
Dec. 26, 2010 9:57 pm
@ Oz.... I can buy a Healthy Choice meal @ Kroger for a buck 79 on sale. Maybe not the perfect meal but tastes pretty good and not loaded with fat and calories. That and a cup full of steamed frozen veggies takes about 5 minutes to prepare and is rather filling. A much better alternative to HB, FF and soda. Much less expensive also
Dec. 26, 2010 11:56 pm
OK, I do have one thing to say about all the fat lazy people going to fast food cause they are soooooooooo lazy. I am handicapped, have been since 1983. It is a progressive handicap, and when I was able to work, there were many times that I was not only exhausted from work (even as an accountant),I just hurt too much to cook. I was lucky to be able to sit up long enough to eat. Now I have the ability to cook due to a chair with wheels and a button that sets the level(plus I cannot work). Before that, I could not cook since I can stand or walk for approx 45 seconds before I have to sit. Please don't judge everyone that eats fast food as lazy, there are many things that you may not know about them. I just plain could not do it, due to a handicap and a very large kitchen. :) Now my kitchen is small and manageable with this chair, what a neat little thing to have. If any of you are like I was, get a cheap office chair, it makes a world of difference. Sorry BakingNana, I just had to say it. Of course I would cook most nights and "suck it up", but others were just too difficult and I was happy to have a place to go because all I could do was go home and to bed...
Dec. 27, 2010 12:06 am
I was also horrified the first time I saw this commercial! I hate fast food...I don't "do" burgers, I abhor anything with cheese in first place, and McD's chicken nuggets have over 27 ingredients! Yikes! I agree, pure poison! I do not believe that this stuff actually classifies as "food"!! I feed bad for the folks who think that this cheap food is their only alternative, they have been so grossly mislead by these purveyors of pukey foods, have had their taste buds completely desensitized by all the fat and sodium (some people actually think it TASTES good?)...and these companies, in my mind, are deliberately trying to undermine the overall health of Americans in general for their own greedy profit. Shameful!!!
Dec. 27, 2010 5:50 am
Kathy Brewer - Thanks for posting. I wonder if your co-worker who eats FF every day sees the link between her diet and her ill health. Probably not.... or at least she won't admit it.
Dec. 27, 2010 5:53 am
Choppie - no need to apologize. This is a discussion and your insight is important. If I had your kind of progessive disablity I would probably drive thru too. Glad you have found a solution to help you enjoy cooking again.
Dec. 27, 2010 5:59 am
msntnkrbll - Yes, people do think it tastes good! I agree - Chicken Nuggets should not have 27 ingredients....notice they call them McNuggets - no chicken in that name! It's a shame that there are segments of our society that totally subsist on this junk.
Dec. 27, 2010 10:23 am
@BN, I don't assume anything. I try to think that people have good intentions, but she was very clear in how she perceived and generalized people who eat at FF. She didn't say, "Some people" or even "alot of people" she said "You have to remember though, that people who eat at Jack in the Box, don't care if they are saving money, nor do they care about their or their childrens diets." PLUS she makes her point very clear a second time... "And those who do, really again, aren't doing it to save money. They are eating there out of laziness and lack of care for their health or their families." It's a little difficult to find any morsel of non-generalizing there.. that's what I object to. I have no doubt there are people who eat there because they don't know better or are incapable or don't want to cook from home. But, is it any worse than peering into the carts of some people at the grocery store? Pre-processed this and that, frozen meals, highly salted, preserved box meals.. and worse! Those healthy choice frozen food items.. check the sodium content. Still think they are good for you? Some may be.. but you can have much better flavor and convenience doing your own at home. I'm far less concerned about the few people who feed their children fast food as a steady diet as I am about the so-called "educated" folks who think nothing of putting together a box of Kraft Macaroni and Cheese and a salad and think it's a well-rounded meal. Rather than criticizing the obvious and assuming that all FF eaters are lazy (which is rude and offensive to say the least), how about we concentrate on the real issue - pre-processed foods, hormone growth injected meats, sugary or salty packaged foods loaded with glucose and Lord Knows What.. FF customers are not going to go home and cook healthy foods if they are addicted to Fast Food. They are most likely going to go home and continue the bad habits by buying misleading and mislabeled garbage at the grocery store. This country needs to reinstate home economics in all schools starting in grade school and they need to educate and teach balance and nutrition. Fast food restaurants can exist in a healthy society.. we may not need one on every street corner, but they can exist in a world that understands moderation and healthy eating practices.
Dec. 27, 2010 10:54 am
BellesAZ - I can't say I am in disagreement with you. Which is why I wrote the other blog "The Freezer Case...." BTW - I do notice what is in peoples carts! I find it interesting and very telling. Yesterday I saw a man and his two children in the meat department buying the makings for their dinner. He was looking for the Country Crock Mashed potatoes to go with the steak he had in hand. I looked at the label after they were gone and it was so tiny and so long that I couldn't read it! This little tub of potatoes and chemicals was $4.00!
Dec. 27, 2010 12:53 pm
When I was in high school I worked a summer job at Jack-in-the-Box. If any of my friends ever went to eat there I ALWAYS told them, NEVER eat the tacos. They come in a box (like all the other food) and the tacos already have the meat inside the shells, it comes to the store that way. Then they are submerged in the fryers (the SAME fryers used for fries, chicken, etc.) then added 2 slices of cheese and lettuce then taco sauce. The fact that the meat is cooked in a fryer already in the shell is what gets me. I had another summer job at taco bell and the food there all came separately, and there's only 2 or 3 items on the menu that are put in a fryer (Fiesta potatoes, and cinnamon swirls) Where-as at Jack, most of their menu is made of fryer items (fries, jalapeno poppers, egg rolls, tacos, fish sticks, hash browns, chicken strips, chicken patties, french toast, cheese sticks, etc) It's pretty gross. So usually if I'm on the road, far from home and there isn't any other restaurant to eat at, and I don't have much of a choice. I steer clear of the fried stuff. I think it's a different discussion when people stereo-type over-weight/obese people as those who eat a lot of fast-food (No, I'm not obese, and I've always had an average height/weight ratio until I got pregnant). I agree that these companies are awful and a problem. But honestly, what makes a fast-food burger more unhealthy than a homemade burger? The only differences are, that you're able to control the type of burger you use, how much fat content is in the meat, and whether or not you choose to eat it with a whole wheat bun. People need to understand that it's the combination of eating unhealthy and not exercising that is the problem. Of course, it DEFINITELY doesn't help when these companies put out commercials like these, portraying that it's cheaper to eat out than eat at home. I think people who are tricked into these schemes, can be surprised to find that you can have many healthy, filling meals for the whole family for under $10.
Dec. 27, 2010 8:55 pm
Kelsey - Thanks for your insight - I did a nutrition search on just the meat from a Bonus Jack and the meat alone came up with 146 mg sodium - that is without the sauce or anything else - just the meat. So yes, sodium is added to the meat alone. You have it right, being able to control the quality of the beef and additives makes a big difference. I am not a huge fan of ground beef - but it I am going to eat it - I would rather buy it and cook it myself. The deep fryers with everything tossed in is gross - but then if you have ever smelled a grease trap from a restaurant you probably wouldn't eat there. Our small town just got a Taco Bell and people waited 30 minutes or more in the drive thru for the privilege of being the first ones through Taco Bell. It was so popular TB ran out of meat! This is the FF food culture.
Dec. 28, 2010 9:34 am
ahhh Baking Nana. I am glad you share 'all you rour observations'. You don't worry about the criticisms from a few. The observation of the man buying the $4 tub of mashed potatos is interesting. I bought those once when I didn't feel like peeling potatos. I don't think I will again! Baked potatos are so easy
Dec. 28, 2010 10:58 am
Maureen - I am not trying to be critical of the man buying dinner for his kids - he is trying! I am sure he has no idea that what is in that tub isn't just taters, butter and milk. You are right - baked potatoes are a breeze! Even nuking them works great in a pinch. :) Thanks for stopping in.
Dec. 28, 2010 12:34 pm
Oh I know- others will always misread things we write. I was that man-no more though. I know you would try to help anybody who wants to eat healthier. Your presence on AR is nothing if not positive and level heeaded..thank you!
Dec. 29, 2010 6:29 pm
Not to beat a dead horse, but have you heard of the 6 year old cheeseburger. Yup it's from McD's. It is a youtube video demo of a woman carries one around with her to make a point...ugh!
Dec. 29, 2010 10:26 pm
Oh Maureen - that is terrible! The wonders of TBHQ - tertiary butylhydroquinone, which is an antioxidant that comes from petroleum and is related to butane. It is often used as a preservative, applied either to the carton of fast food items or sprayed directly onto them, as well as in various other prepackaged food items.
Dec. 29, 2010 10:26 pm
As Michael Pollen says "Eat Food that will rot." Make sense to me!
Dec. 29, 2010 10:28 pm
OH! to switch from JITB to Taco Bell (they are all the same) Have you made mexican rice? How many ingredients do you use? 4 or 5? Check this out......
Dec. 29, 2010 10:30 pm
Taco Bell's Rice : Water, Seasoning: Salt, Maltodextrin, Tomato Powder, Potassium Chloride, Natural Flavor (With Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Maltodextrin, High Oleic Sunflower Oil, Disodium Inosinate, Disodium Guanylate, Sunflower Lecithin), Spices, Dehydrat...ed Onions, Dehydrated Tomatoes, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, Paprika [Color], Citric Acid, Dehydrated Green Bell Peppers, Dehydrated Red Bell Peppers, Extractive of Paprika [Color], Disodium Inosinate, Disodium Guanylate, Garlic Extractives (Contains Modified Corn Starch, Corn Starch), Onion Extractives (Contains Modified Corn Starch, Dextrin, Corn Starch), Less Than 2% Silicon Dioxide Added To Prevent Caking. Rice (Raw): Enriched Precooked Parboiled Long Grain Rice [Rice, Niacin, Ferric Orthophosphate (Iron), Thiamine Mononitrate (Thiamine), Folic Acid]. Oil: High-Oleic Low-Linolenic Canola Oil, TBHQ (To Protect Flavor), Dimethylpolysiloxane (An Antifoaming Agent).
Dec. 29, 2010 10:31 pm
Why do we need an antifoaming agent in rice? Dimethylpolysiloxane (An Antifoaming Agent).
Dec. 30, 2010 11:26 am
Oh my! Still learning from you...I didn't know about the TBHQ! Do you eat at Subway? Do you eat out at all?? Your opinion is requested..thanks!! I never eat at Taco Bell. It makes me think twice about eating out at all! Since restaurants have to have food "ready to go" is theirs any better for you?
Dec. 30, 2010 11:59 pm
Maureen Google TBHQ there is an amazing amount of info. We do eat out sometimes For FF we do subway it is not perfect but better than most FF places. I will write more later when I am not on my IPad. Easier to type. Happy New Year.
Jan. 2, 2011 6:31 am
At least at Subway you can "see" what goes into your food. I guess salad are a safe bet. But a lot of restaurants don't cook from scratch. So, the more we eat out the less choosy we will be. There is so much to learn about nutrition.
Jan. 2, 2011 6:56 am
I read conflicting opinions of it. TBHQ is just one deterrent to eating FF, huh? Just like their are so many reasons to be physically active. So, the TBHQ partly replaces the oil? That is TBHQ is in the oil, is what I understand. Or do they (FF) spray it on after its cooked?
Jan. 2, 2011 6:59 am
The other trend is to replace the hydrogenated oil with "OLEIC" oil. Is that better for you?
Jan. 2, 2011 2:14 pm
TBHQ - is indeed just one preservative in FF - BUT it is also in most processed foods - it is used to prolong shelf life - my concern is the cumulative effect. TBHQ - isn't oil - it is used to keep oil (fats) from becoming racid. As for "Oliec" oil I am still reading and learning about that. I will let you know what I find out.
Jan. 2, 2011 4:59 pm
Jan. 4, 2011 3:43 pm
The article was good! cooking made simple. I guess cooking can seem overwhelming because it can be complicated. I've learned that it doesn't have to be complicated.
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Every morning my granddaughter calls and says, "Good morning Nana. Whatcha doing? Are you baking Nana?" Hence my name, Baking Nana. I love to bake bread and never get tired of it. Yeast is additive! Visit me at If you would like to contact me directly please use the 'Contact Me' on my site.
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I go through phases, Asian for a while then Italian then on to something else. I love experimenting with new flavors and different spices. Some times my husband will ask if we will ever have "ordinary" food again. Once in a while I have to toss him a burger just to keep quite! Actually, he is a good sport and my favorite taste tester.
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In our family if it is your birthday you get to choose the menu. We have had some really interesting meals. In March we have 5 birthdays so we do one big party - what a crazy menu that is! Christmas dinner is very traditional. Sausage rolls, Prime Rib, Yorkshire Pudding, gravy, Green beans with bacon, Mashed Potatoes (the really fattening kind) and trifle for dessert. If I were to dare to omit any of those items I would be lynched.
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Mastering really great bread is probably my biggest triumph. I am always so pleased when I create a perfect Asian dish.
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There have been a few but none so horrible that I can't laugh about them now.
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