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Ovens, Refrigerators, and What Not To Buy 
 
Jan. 5, 2012 7:29 am 
Updated: Jan. 18, 2012 3:00 am
Four years ago, I moved into a new home.  I bought all new top of the line appliances approximately $25,000 from a store that starts with an S and ends with an s. I did not buy the extended warranty on any of the items. Since then, I had to buy a new washer and dryer. The heating element went out on the second new dryer, the refrigerator stopped cooling. Two days before Christmas 2011,  I used the self cleaning feature on my oven and the oven stopped working. The repairman told me, he  gets a lot of calls after someone has used the self cleaning feature on the oven no matter what the brand.  He suggested using the fume free Easy Off and not to use the self cleaning feature.  Since it cost me 350 dollars to fix my oven, I decided I would rather use the Easy Off oven cleaner. The last straw was when my TV stopped working a couple of days ago.  I am not usually one to dwell on such things, but I was curious if anyone out there has had problems with their appliances?
 
Comments
Jan. 5, 2012 7:47 am
Oh Lela, I am sorry. It seems appliances are just not meant to last. I do buy the extended warranties because of that. I also don't use the self cleaning feature on my ovens. When we moved here I had to replace my refrigerator with a counter depth one. Not cheap at all and I bought that service contract. My dryer also had to have the heating element replaced. The service guy said that if you slam the door while the element is hot it cracks it. Hmmm.... I am more careful now.
 
Jan. 5, 2012 7:49 am
My heating element also burned up in the self-clean cycle of my oven. I will never use it again. I have found the easiest way to clean my oven is to place a pryrex cup with ammonia in a cold and off oven. Let it sit overnight, open a door or window, remove container from the oven and wipe clean. It works great.
 
Jan. 5, 2012 8:07 am
Oh my Lela! Have you ever seen that movie Ghosts in the machines? I feel so bad for you! Jim and I are renting right now...waiting to see where we want to retire... One plus, anything that goes wrong with our appliances... they fix them!
 
Jan. 5, 2012 9:06 am
Wow, can't believe you asked. I am thinking I have poltergeists in my house. My microwave (2 yrs old), has begun turning itself on and cooking in the express mode. It beeps when it is done, but the LCD screen does not respond to any buttons being pushed. I was afraid to leave it on for fear it would keep cooking the empty oven, so I put a 2 cup glass measure full of water in it and I pulled the circuit breaker. The lights went out on it when I did that. The washer is on that circuit and it went dead too. I sat down in the living room again, only to hear whirr and beep. I go out to the kitchen and IT IS ON AND COOKING. Circuit breaker is still in off position. I am not kidding. Same day, my tv remote quit accessing any features. Before I could get a new one it fixed itself. Back to your problem consider an appliance maint. contract with replacement features. Costs me about $300 a year. It works for me. Good luck. Watch out for those poltergeists.
 
Lela 
Jan. 5, 2012 9:09 am
Baking Nana- Hello! I will buy the service contract on the next thing I buy. That is good to know that you need to close the door gently on the dryer. Thanks!
 
Lela 
Jan. 5, 2012 9:12 am
Terry-Hi- I am in a better mood now that I vented. I have seen that movie-hummm, you might have something there. Can't help but ask-How is Jim getting along and also how are you?
 
Lela 
Jan. 5, 2012 9:17 am
Marie-my friend taught me that trick about using ammonia. I used it for years in my old -1970's- yellow dependable- never- anything -went- wrong -G.E. stove. I will have to use it next time I clean my oven. Thanks for reminding me.
 
Lela 
Jan. 5, 2012 9:23 am
Hi Covergirl-my goodness. I thought I had problems! At least my stuff just doesn't work. You and Baker Nana are right about getting the main. contract. I have the washer and dryer that I can still get the main. contract. I am going to do that as soon as I post here. Thanks for your suggestion.
 
Jan. 5, 2012 11:11 am
I'm soooooo tired! I can't sleep... but niether can Jim! AR seems to help! I jump on here every chance I get! Jim is trying hard to drudge through... tuff stuff, this knee thing! We'll get through! Thanks so much for asking! We'll have a follow up blog when we get through the muck!
 
Lela 
Jan. 5, 2012 11:37 am
Terry, I be looking for your blog. Hang in there and Jim, too!
 
Jan. 5, 2012 12:11 pm
Terry: Please tell him to take his pain meds. on a routine schedule even if he thinks he does not need them or else the pain will get ahead of him. Hope he is elevating the leg and using his ice pack regularly. As to the service contract, I was not referring to the extended warranty you can buy on a new purchase Lela. I mean a contract you buy yearly on all of your appliances that covers all repairs and some replacement if repairs are not possible, all your kitchen appl., w+d, hot water heater, some plumbing etc. Worth it.
 
Lela 
Jan. 5, 2012 1:57 pm
Cover Girl-I will check into that. May I ask where did you get your yearly plan? I am not happy with the S...s repair service due to the fact it took them 2 days before Thanksgiving until Jan. to fix my refrigerator. It is a good thing I still had my old refrigerator in the garage. So, I will check with the repairman and ask him if I can get a plan through his company.
 
Jan. 5, 2012 4:08 pm
Lela - covergirl is right. i'm looking into one now. Whole house ones also cover heating, a/c, water heaters. We're going to get one that also covers the pool equipment. Very helpful in our 10-yr-old home. There's a co-pay on many of them, about $60 per incident, but that's fine. IMO, it beats insuring each appliance separately. Mom recently had to replace her washer and dryer, her heat pump, and then her cook top died. All were replaced, total cost for her in SC is $350/yr, plus she spent another $240 for the 'co-pay'. She's loved there for 5 yrs, house is 12 yrs old, and total cost for all 5 yrs. was still less than replacing the appliances herself.
 
Jan. 5, 2012 4:37 pm
Well, if there is an ear in between those S's then the poltergeists extend to their optical dept. I'm on my 4th try at getting a pair that isn't flawed. As far as appliances, I feel your pain!
 
Mich 
Jan. 5, 2012 5:40 pm
My oven went out when I used the self clean feature. I had to unplug it and it reset after 24 hours. We have gone through 3 sets of washers and dryers in 10 years. I will never had a front loader again, always smells of mold. I have yet to own a fridge that doesn't freeze lettuce.
 
Jan. 5, 2012 5:51 pm
My wife has a contract on just about everything, they have replaced our washer, dryer, dishwasher, but I think if I would have saved that money I could have bought all new appliances.
 
Jan. 5, 2012 5:53 pm
by the way our plan is thru sears.
 
Lela 
Jan. 5, 2012 6:56 pm
Hello! Lucylove--Thanks for the advice. I guess I will check into plans-our gas company has one I found out today. I might go with that plan.
 
Lela 
Jan. 5, 2012 6:59 pm
Cat Hill-prescription glasses from you guessed it the same place. I will keep that in mind when I replace my glasses. I hope the next pair of glasses you get are the right ones. Hope 2012 is a good one for everyone!
 
Lela 
Jan. 5, 2012 7:08 pm
Hi- Mich-Ouch-that hurts to think appliances are just breaking down everywhere. I know how you feel about frozen lettuce, too. I have a double oven and the repairman had to use one of those oven dollies to pull it out of the wall. Reseting would be an issue. So I am opting to clean with ammonia or Easy-Off.
 
Lela 
Jan. 5, 2012 7:11 pm
KingSparta-Thanks for the advice. I hope your appliances are still working for you.
 
Jan. 5, 2012 9:26 pm
I bought Kenmore, the stuff is so far, bulletproof. 10 years and counting, only had to replace the dryer belt, under warranty, guy did it in about 5 minutes flat. Great company support and pretty darn good products.
 
Jan. 6, 2012 5:02 am
Lela, it is almost funny because I have to drive 45 min to the store. I'm begining to wonder if this is a cosmic course on learning patience. LOL #3 time I went to pick up them up, the lady swore she had looked the glasses over with a fine tooth comb and assured me they didn't have flaws. Not. Still waiting on the 4th pair. Like I said, I think I'm supposed to learn patience from this ordeal :)
 
Lela 
Jan. 6, 2012 6:17 am
Raedwulf-Wow! I am glad you didn't get a lemon.
 
Lela 
Jan. 6, 2012 6:20 am
Cat Hill, it would drive me crazy if I had to use glasses with flaws. My mom used to say what did you learn from this experience? Well, I'm thinking..............................
 
Jan. 6, 2012 6:43 am
As far as the service contracts go, the ones in my area have no copays and you can buy the contract just to cover repair costs or you can pay more and select repair or replace. Sears does sell these. Go online and typein Appliance Maintenance Service Contractors and your town and state and a list will come up. Try to find one that is national and of course check them out with the BBB etc. Look around you in traffic, you will probably see trucks (van type) and ask neighbors. It is a good thing to have. p.s. My lettuce is frozen too.
 
Lela 
Jan. 6, 2012 7:03 am
Thanks for the advice Covergirl. I will google that right now! My mom used to use a tupperware lettuce keeper-I wonder if they still make those and do they actually work? Have a good day!
 
jaci44 
Jan. 6, 2012 8:09 am
I hear you. I am moving into a studio that I am re-fitting for my "senior" livestyle. I will be living there alone and I have decided that I do not want a stove or a microwave. I have purchased counter-top appliances for around $40-$50 each. Since I live alone and cook only for myself (but do love cooking), I expect this will work for me. I will start a blog after I move in and let you all know if my idea is working.
 
Lela 
Jan. 6, 2012 8:33 am
jaci-I think you are on to something. I will look forward to reading your blog! I remember-as a teacher-retired now, I baked cupcakes in paper cups for the kids in an electric skillet. My kids loved it. So, I am sure it can be done! Also, wouldn't it be nice to not clean an oven!
 
michellemb 
Jan. 6, 2012 10:14 am
mich- your front loaders won't smell of mold if you switch to powdered detergent. As I understand, liquid detergents contain animal fat, which contribute to that odor you are smelling. I used the wash machine cleaners for front loaders and then switched to powder have not had the problem again for years.
 
Jan. 6, 2012 12:34 pm
I am shopping to replace my service contracts. The one I am buying, price based on age of appliances which most of mine are less than 2 yrs. old except the refrig, includes electrical fixtures (lights) in the bath and kitchen and plumbing leaks in the bath and kitchen and outlet switches. so Air cond., hot water heater, disposal, stove/oven, micro, refrig., washer, dryer, and hot water heater plus elec. and plumb. will cost me $300 yr. with no copay and I already know I have problems with the LCD panel on my micro and my flourescent fixtures in one bath and in the kitchen. Ahead of the game already and this is not even cheating. The company I chose is ECM East Coast Mechanical, not sure if they extend out of my area. Good luck.
 
Lela 
Jan. 6, 2012 2:18 pm
Sounds very reasonable Covergirl! I am still looking!
 
Lela 
Jan. 6, 2012 2:20 pm
Hello michellemb-This may sound like a dumb question, but how much powdered detergent and do you put the detergent in the dispenser or in the washer itself? Thanks!
 
Lela 
Jan. 6, 2012 3:02 pm
Michellemb one more thing-how much powdered detergent do you use?
 
MISSDARCY 
Jan. 6, 2012 3:22 pm
Self-cleaning would also "kill" our oven. Repair guy said we needed a new "board," which was hundreds of dollars. I didn't do it. We then figured out that unplugging it and plugging it back in would reset it---no cost. I complained to the repair co. and they split the cost of his call (and some nasty words) w/me. It would be one thing if these appliances were "disposable" and cost less, but they're "disposable" and cost just as much as they did when you could count on them for 20 years. When the washing machine died, we bought the cheapest one possible since it felt like it would just break anyway. We share your pain!
 
Jan. 6, 2012 3:49 pm
Wow, reset, kinda like reboot the computer, I will remember that. Thanks.
 
Mamaw1 
Jan. 6, 2012 3:52 pm
I used to like S...s appliances. I have heard too many flawed issues with them lately. Someone pointed out that that company have had a hostile takeover by another company associated with them. could account for the changes in quality, services. Also, heard that newer appliances are made to be replaced, not repaired, and the older ones are much more reliable.
 
Lela 
Jan. 6, 2012 3:52 pm
Miss Darcy, I know how you feel. It was going to cost more to fix the washer than to just replace it. Go figure! From what I gather from my repairman he fixes a lot of appliances less than 7 years old. So in my opinion, you are wise to get the cheaper washer and dryer.
 
Jan. 6, 2012 5:12 pm
Lots of good info here! I'm afraid if I comment on my own appliances they might stop working! I'll just knock on wood and heed the advice given!
 
Lela 
Jan. 6, 2012 7:51 pm
Memaw-I've heard the same thing about the appliances. Newer doesn't always mean better nowdays. Thanks for your input.
 
Lela 
Jan. 6, 2012 7:52 pm
Lissa-I also have learned a lot from everyone. I am glad your appliances are still working for you.
 
Jan. 6, 2012 8:16 pm
You are preaching to the choir here. I have had many homes and have redone every single on of the kitchens I have owned. I have also redone all my vacation home condos when I bought them. Add that to the clients kitchens and that is a bunch. Almost all kitchen and laundry appliance brands are made under the umbrella of Whirlpool Corp. Unfortunately, they have farmed almost all operations to foreign countries from Mexico to Taiwan and many third world nations in between. With that, our appliance life has gone to he!! in a handbasket. Now for those of you who are thrilled with your warranty insurance, live it up. The new service warranties are subbed out to local companies for X amount of dollars a month in our area. They do everything possible to NOT replace parts cuz it comes out of their bottom line. I have had 5 service calls on my 2 year old $1500. Kitchenaid dishwasher. It was leaking down the front recently and the service provider suggested that I plug the leak with duct tape over the polished stainless steel. I finally got a good repairmen through the warranty. Just had to call again cuz dishes suddenly were not getting clean. Was so unhappy to hear that the good company dropped out of the warranty service contract cuz said that they couldn't afford to fix the appliances properly with the contracted allowance. It is all screwed up big time and the consumer is taking it in the shorts. If you read consumer reports, they will rate the appliances, but when you read the comments from owners, even the well reviewed appliances are having tons of problems. That being said, I found the ONLY U.S. built washer and dryer (top loader) and it is made by Speed Queen. So far, knock wood, a winner. BTW the last dude who came out for the dishwasher not cleaning dishes lectured me on the proper amount of detergent and rinsing etc. I have had Kitchenaid dishwashers since my mom got her first one when I was about 10. Somehow I never needed a lecture on how to run one properly till now. Guess what.....per his instructions, the dishes are NOT getting clean. What a joke!
 
Jan. 6, 2012 8:27 pm
BTW The diff between the kitchen appliances i installed 4 years ago and my two year old kitchen are like light years apart. No problems still with the 4 year old kitchen. The two year old kitchen has been problematic...to say the least.
 
Jan. 6, 2012 11:04 pm
I am curious, first, if anyone has tried going a legal route. New appliances should not be breaking, and in some states, you may have more rights than what is given by the warranty. (I was once told by an attorney not to send warranty cards in.) I'm also not sure where the idea came from that Whirlpool makes everything. Their brands include Amana, Jenn-Air, Kitchen Aid (bummer) and Maytag. They don't own Kenmore, but these places don't manufacture their own stuff. Just because it's the first thing I found, I looked at some dehumidifiers as examples. Whirlpools are made by Air & Energy Products and Kelon USA (which do not make other major brands that I could find). Kenmores are made by Electrolux, LG and Winix. (Mine is an LG.) Electrolux makes Frididaire products and "store brand" products (like Kenmore). Amana (owned by Whirlpool) is made by Haier America. And all those manufacturers aren't owned by Whirlpool. I will agree, however, that products s**k these days. I'm replacing stuff that lasted 20+ years with stuff that'll probably break in 10. My 5 yr old Kenmore stove (just a $500 decent but lower line model cause it's all I needed) is still fine, including self-cleaning. But the washer, which works except that I have to rig the lid, is the one I grew up with that my mom had! and the old air conditioner made it about 35 years. No, they don't make 'em like they used to.
 
Lela 
Jan. 7, 2012 8:29 am
Mauigirl-Hi there. I am just shaking my head over all this nonsense. My, my, I thought I had it bad with one kitchen. You have your hands full.
 
Lela 
Jan. 7, 2012 8:31 am
Hello, Erimess-you have some interesting points. I would have kept my old yellow stove, but my husband said it didn't match the rest of the appliances.
 
Jan. 7, 2012 9:03 am
I guess I have been EXTREMELY lucky! When I got married 30 yrs ago our first home had appliances included that were about 6-8 years old already. When we moved into our current home I brought the GE washer & dryer with me. I just had to replace those appliances in the past few years (they were 34 yrs old). New ones are Whirlpool and work fine. My 1st refrigerator was close to 30 yrs old when it died, new one is a Whirlpool and works great. My stove is 25 yrs old and is a Kenmore. Hubby had to replace the heating element in it once about 12 years ago or so. I use the self-cleaning feature all the time and have never had a problem. We've been talking about getting a new stove to match the new fridge, but I'm afraid a new one wouldn't last as long and the old one is still working just fine. I think I will just hang on to it as long as possible. Sounds like the new stuff won't last.
 
Lela 
Jan. 7, 2012 9:19 am
Mother Ann, you are indeed lucky. You just better hang on to the old appliances. My DH used to be able to fix any of the old appliances like your hubby. However, with the computer boards on so many things he just says call a repairman.
 
swimcook 
Jan. 7, 2012 11:21 am
I love to cook, but hate appliances. I have 7 children, so everything gets a lot of use. My refrigerator just went out after ordering new door bins for it to a tune of $160. My sons bought a new piece that varies the airflow from the freezer to the fridge ($70). I works now, but wondering if I should have just purchased a new one. Need a new filter before I can make ice, so I need to buy some ice cube trays. Front-load washer went out a year ago, the wall oven Christmas night the year before that. Should just buy commercial appliances, except for cost. Seems mine go out right after extended warranty. Glad to know about the self-cleaning. I have used it a lot, but won't again. Looking into all house policy. Thanks!
 
Lela 
Jan. 7, 2012 12:36 pm
Swimcook-I feel your pain. I do not like spending my hard earned money on appliances especially when it always happens unexpectedly. Just a couple of days ago, my light in the freezer drawer on my side by side/ refrigerator/ freezer is frozen-my husband said it was an airflow problem. I hope it's not another repair like you just had. I bought some ice cube trays, too.-just in case the filter goes out.
 
Jan. 7, 2012 1:20 pm
Erimess, I never said that WHirlpool made everything.....they do make JennAir, Kitchenaid, Amana & Maytag and some Kenmore appliances like the twin to my current Kitchenaid frig. GE has been trying to sell off their appliance division....with no luck so far. Not sure how many brands GE produces. When you try to go up against the giants, it is a nightmare. Coming from a family of attorneys, I know the game.
 
keyssandi 
Jan. 7, 2012 3:34 pm
I've had defective glasses before-the girl who fitted me kept saying they just needed to be adjusted-I wear trifocals-finally the opthomaologist got a look at them and said the actual glass was distorted and repalced them. It's enough to make you nuts!
 
Lela 
Jan. 8, 2012 7:40 am
Keyssandi-wearing distorted glasses would drive one crazy-especially with trifocals.
 
Leah 
Jan. 8, 2012 9:36 am
I know *EXACTLY* what you are going through. Since we finished building our new home less than 5 years ago- we have had a nonstop stream of problems with every single one of the Kenmore appliances we purchased. EVERY SINGLE ONE.... Within the very first week we had a tech out here trying to resolve the problems with our new front load HE washer, from then it went on and on between broken microwaves and dishwashers, to most recently a full out main circuit board failure on our convection oven the night before thanksgiving. Naturally this most recent problem isn't covered by any sort of warranty. After contacting Sears about it, they offered to let me re-instate the extended warranty (300.00+ dollars) and then if I had the same problem 2 more times they could evaluate replacing the stove. Not an option for us since this latest malfunction caused all of our 5 burners to trigger the ignition to fire off simultaneously... I won't even purchase socks from Sears now, and would caution anybody considering a purchase like that to check through some of the appliance repair blogs to see what the common problems are. I know nothing is made like they used to be, but this was a very expensive lesson to learn!
 
Griz 
Jan. 8, 2012 1:10 pm
The store that starts withS and ends with s is not what it used to be. The days of "We'll stand behind what we sell and if something happens we'll fix it."are gone forever. Too many mega-corps own everything. Corporations are people we are told, but they are people that hide behind the "LLC" mark, LL stands for limited liability. How can I get one of those? Best advice look into the studies in Consumer Reports, and be sure it's not the other corporate sponsored look alike publication. If it isn't Consumer's Union, it's phony.
 
Lela 
Jan. 8, 2012 3:52 pm
Leah, the word is "expensive." I don't know about you, but I for one do not have unlimited funds to keep pouring into appliances. I like you. have learned about "the expensive lesson."
 
Lela 
Jan. 8, 2012 3:56 pm
Griz, I appreciate your advice to read the Consumer Reports. My big question is: What is a consumer to do?
 
Jan. 8, 2012 4:38 pm
I have subscribed to Consumer Reports for 30 years plus and I do like to consult it when i make a purchase. The problem seems to be that the consumer reviews do not always match their recommendations these days (their online magazine) Very disgusting to realize we are powerless against these appliance giants. These are very expensive purchases. They could care less about our customer satisfaction. Try talking to someone at Whirlpool. The last time I did, I thought I was living in another universe :(
 
susieq 
Jan. 8, 2012 6:09 pm
When our daughter bought her 1st home, she had a Home Warranty which she kept up each year. When we bought our new home, we did the same. They run around $450 a year. This covers appliances, furnaces, air conditioners, plumbing problems, electrical problems,etc. We called the company and got one on my Mom's house to cover any problems she might have on her older home. Her furnace went out late Friday on a holiday weekend, and it was fixed before bedtime with the $75 service fee they charge when a service man is called out as part of the contract. Believe me, this is well worth it. P.S. I've had a self-cleaning oven in my last 3 homes (20+ years) and I use it all the time with no problem. I have a gas Maytag right now, but before that it was a Montgomery Ward stove!
 
Lela 
Jan. 8, 2012 11:05 pm
Thanks Mauigirl-I have learned a lot from your comments.
 
Lela 
Jan. 8, 2012 11:09 pm
Susieq-thanks for the information. It sounds like you get good service from your Home Warranty program.
 
Jan. 9, 2012 9:35 pm
We did a kitchen remodel last summer and purchased all new top of the line appliances. We purchased a 5 year extended warranty on all of them. If we have just one service call it will nearly cover the cost of the warranty. It almost seems like you're betting you'll have something go wrong but I think with these new appliances that have so many electronic components it's probably a good investment.
 
Jan. 10, 2012 4:45 am
I purchased the extended warranty on all of my appliances. Even my hot water heater. I purchased them from S---s also. My brand new HE washer started leaking and they came out twice and on the second time they replaced the unit. It was only 70 days old. My mother bought the first "stainless" samsung fridge in 2003. If she didn't keep on renewing that warranty. She would be out a huge chunk of change. The motor went, the ice machine went, and the mother board went. It's always good to have a warranty! You might want to purchase a home warranty on your appliances. So it covers everything.
 
Lela 
Jan. 10, 2012 6:28 am
Miata and Travis thanks for sharing your stories. All of comments have truly opened my eyes. I now have the extended warranty on my washer and dryer per the advice of my repairman. As far as my other appliances-my hubby is still checking into the home warranty plans.
 
Jan. 10, 2012 8:37 am
I had trouble with our novelle down draft many years ago when almsot brand new>> once it was a power surge while baking and the next time I had the serviceman come he told me that these new stoves have a computer panel and self cleaning them knocks it out - the oven needs to go to 1000 degreee heat to clean!! He suggested what others said that I use fume free oven cleaner. That was expensive work by the way. But its nice he told me, so no more repair work bills,guess he felt sorry for me after 2 $$ repair bills-ha! I have cleaned my oven myself for many years and the stove is almsot 20 years old now...-its a pain ,but no more $$ repair work either ---I need to try the amonia trick -- do you need to open windows while doing it over night, because one could not do that in the winter time. I hope someone answers my question on that .... in fact I just cleaned and I was complaing to husband about having a self cleaner oven that has to be clean by hand---- haha
 
Jan. 10, 2012 12:48 pm
I bought a Whirlpool stove and had an issue at 11 months, the repair man was late and said jsut to call and reshedule. Well I did however it was 12 days after the warranty expired. I called and spoke to a few people at Whirlpool, and they simply said "no, our warranty is 365 days, no longer" I will never ever buy a whirlpool again!
 
Jan. 10, 2012 1:13 pm
Why is allrecipes allowing spammers to post?
 
Lela 
Jan. 10, 2012 5:48 pm
Sueasty- As far as I know the spammers continue to plague this website. I delete them when I see them. I hope the AR higher-ups come up with something to eliminate the spammers. To answer your question about using ammonia-you can google using ammonia in an oven if you have any questions. Ehow suggests you ventilate the room. I think it is for electric ovens only. Here is a website- http://www.ehow.com/way_5315374_cleaning-oven-ammonia.html
 
Lela 
Jan. 10, 2012 5:51 pm
DylanandDrewsdad-it's sad that Whirlpool didn't honor the warranty. I feel for you!
 
Jan. 11, 2012 7:34 am
Thanks Lela for information. I will google it--- my oven is electic.
 
Jan. 11, 2012 11:49 am
I am so sorry about your appliances. We too bought a home 2 years ago and replaced appliances. All of mine had a one year warranty through the manufacturer. I wonder why yours did not? I hope all works out towards the best with comes next. Have you had the electric wires in your home tested by the electric company who supplies your electricity? They might help you to see if your home wiring is surging improperly and might help.
 
Lela 
Jan. 11, 2012 6:37 pm
Martha, never thought about power surges causing a problem. Also, the appliances of course starting having problems after the warranty was off. I only had one appliance that had problems during the 1 year warranty and that was the second dryer. Thanks for the advice.
 
Jan. 12, 2012 7:46 am
HOME WARRANTY folks.....please post the name of your home warranty company if you have had a good experience. We all need all the help we can get. Thanks!
 
Jan. 12, 2012 1:25 pm
Man, what a string of bad luck! We re-did our kitchen 2 years ago, everything is working well. I use my self cleaning feature on my oven, no problem. I have never had that problem with my previous ones either, including the one I had 8 yrs and gave to a sis in law 6 yrs ago, she still uses the self clean feature and it still is going fine!
 
Heaterman 
Jan. 12, 2012 7:29 pm
Lela, with all that you have had go wrong it makes me wonder if you have an electrical problem in your house. All those issues on appliances that age is far from normal regardless of the brand. I would recommend that you hire an electrician to check the voltage and the neutral connections in your main breaker panel. It is also possible that you may have a grounding issue and that will drive modern, electronically controlled equipment of any kind stark raving bonkers. It would be worth a $100 for the service call to find out.
 
Lela 
Jan. 12, 2012 10:27 pm
Emom-You are indeed a lucky duck!
 
Lela 
Jan. 12, 2012 10:28 pm
Heaterman-thanks for your advice.It is worth checking into!
 
 
 
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I enjoy cooking for our family sit down dinners. Although my kids are grown, we are a close family that enjoys 4-5 sit down dinners a week together. My family's favorite dinner is chicken enchiladas smothered in green chili. I have a passion for cooking, baking for the holidays and food photography.
My favorite things to cook
I am family oriented and spend time with my family enjoying meals. My favorite things to cook are Mexican food and any food my family asks me to cook. My family looks forward to home cooked Mexican food at least once a week and Italian food.
My favorite family cooking traditions
I am on a journey to reclaim family recipes that were lost when the cooks in my family passed away. Cooking traditions are a major part of my passion for cooking. On Christmas Eve, we always had green chili and tamales. Cookie baking, lemon bars, pizzelles , and potica have been a must at Christmas as long as I can remember. My family looks forward to homemade pizza, when we gather as a family to decorate the Christmas cookies. Thanksgiving wouldn't be Thanksgiving without noodles and gravy piled high on mashed potatoes, pumpkin pie, and broccoli and rice casserole. On the 4th of July, there is the 4th of July Potato Salad that I make using 10 pounds of potatoes. Mexican Food is part of our weekly menu--green chili served over mashed potatoes or as a slopper (green chili poured over hamburgers.) I am always making tortillas for someone. They call my tortillas little white pieces of gold. Saturdays are Family night for dinner. It is the one day my kids can request a meal.
My cooking triumphs
Seeking help on the Buzz and the AR Blog has resulted in a few triumphs. I am extremely ecstatic about overcoming the yeast monster. I can now bake baguettes, focaccia and the best rolls in the world, my Grandma Rita's Butter Rolls.
My cooking tragedies
My first attempts at baking bread/rolls resulted in rock hard flat rolls. However, I am improving. Baking at High Altitude is somewhat of a challenge.
 
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