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Aug. 10, 2010 7:23 pm 
Updated: Oct. 23, 2010 7:08 am
ok, i'm as confused as most of you are about how to post a recipe. i agree, the process once found is daunting...i don't understand why. if you look at the top of the screen there are different categories for topics. most of them are fine in my opinion, but, of course, there is a but...why not allow all personal recipes to show as new recipes? maybe create a new header with new recipes and where to submit them? take off "dining in" for instance. wouldn't you like to see cooks personal recipes that are not yet accepted? maybe folks could vote for it's admission? i understand that you can search someone's profile...but such a time-consuming  thing. this is a great site. i think we can make it better, what do you think? 
Aug. 10, 2010 7:58 pm
YES!! Gary that would be great! I myself could care less if I ever get published, I just want peeps to try the things I have taken the time to sort of create, some of mine are MIL recipes so I can't take All the credit. And it is time consuming, what if the person has 200 recipes, does one have time to search through all of them to find 1 dessert they saw on the New Photo page? I think not! People are always complaining about the voting page, sometimes it seems like it really is rigged. Your system would make people feel like they at least have a snowballs chance in H2ll of someone actually Seeing their Grams favorite recipe for rice or whatever it is instead of sitting in Washing La La Land!! Thanks for listening Gary, Love to Claire and I will let someone else stand on the Soap Box now! LOL
Aug. 10, 2010 8:14 pm
hi patti cakes. it seems like an easy fix... i know modifications would be necessary but... this is such a great helpful site people depend on. a little bit of!
Aug. 10, 2010 8:16 pm
I don't submit recipes to AR anymore. I have submitted around 12, and had 4 published. The rest are languishing in "to be reviewed". I also don't like the fact that any recipe one submits becomes the property of AR forever. I may want to write a cookbook someday (snicker) and get into a copywright fight with them. I submitted a fantastic (I have testimonials) recipe for Pork Green Chili that is still sitting around waiting for review. I will never submit another recipe on this site.
Aug. 10, 2010 8:19 pm
Of course it will be an easy fix! They are always fixing something around here anyway. Everytime we come on, there is a new tab in the bar for something or other. Have you actually written to them about it?
Aug. 10, 2010 8:21 pm
Why can't they get rid of "ASK a Question" and just keep Request a Recipe! That would make our lives so much easier! I totally agree with you, GD! Hopefully, AR will read this! :)
Aug. 10, 2010 8:24 pm
Would be nice to have ALL recipes come up when you put in a search. I wish you could search just for "Approved" and also just search "Personal recipes". All of them all at once might be too daunting so an option to filter them would be nice. I feel like there is a whole other sub-site of recipes I am missing out on and cant search for!
Aug. 10, 2010 8:25 pm
Diane is the Perfect example of Why The Gods need to change things around a bit and make it easier for folks to Want to submit!! BTW Diane, I would Love to try your green pork chili! I love that kind of thing:)
Aug. 10, 2010 8:25 pm
Gary, You should Email this blog to them!
Aug. 10, 2010 8:29 pm
I agree!! I don't want to write a cookbook or do copyright haggling either. I just want to cook tasty food! I LOVE personal recipes. They're some of my favorites! A tab at the top that says Personal Recipes with a search feature would be awesome. Then we'd all know AR hasn't "Kitchen Approved" them, but someone ELSE has :). . . works for me!
Aug. 10, 2010 8:30 pm
i agree diane! many great recipes that have been submitted at sitting in limbo! i want to see those as well as the ones published here. a different tsb at the top would/could work i believe.
Aug. 10, 2010 8:32 pm
you and i what's for dinner are certainly on the same page here!
Aug. 10, 2010 8:36 pm
agree lady sparkle, certain regional favorites might be very interesting, but just that kinda tab would be/ could be worth investigating. i know i would check to see what someone made a "little" different. we all eat pretty much the same things. it's just how we prepare them that makes it unique to each one.
Aug. 10, 2010 8:48 pm
I agree that it would be nice to have an easy way to search personal recipes. Even if you could go to a cook's page and click on personal recipes would be a plus.
Aug. 10, 2010 9:10 pm
agree kgora! they need to up-grade their searches since recipe admissision takes so long. i'm not quick on the uptake in terms of finding a personal recipe. i hate to waste someone's time when they recommend a personal recipe and it takes me a week to find it.
Aug. 10, 2010 10:23 pm
Great ideas ^^^^ And, if we could access personal recipes more easily and could review them, that might help AR -- let some of us be the reviewers! Also, why, oh WHY, can I only recommend recently viewed recipes and not what is in my recipe box? What's in my box is what I've probably made and tried. What I recently viewed I haven't made yet!
Aug. 11, 2010 12:45 am
Great job, Gary. What I find amazing is that when I log in, I can go to my "Allrecipes" section and get a compact list of MY recipes by clicking on "Submitted Recipes" (please note, I submit all my recipes). Currently I have 4 that have been rejected, 1 that is "Accepted Editing" (and has been for all this month just about!), 4 that have been published and 41 "Awaiting Review" or whatever the wording is. The technology ALREADY EXISTS to access this information in a simple and meaningful way, why not just extend it to others that look up my profile? OK, maybe don't include the "rejected" ones (mine have been rejected for non-specific amounts; on recipes that are required to be generalised), but nevertheless, just make it easier for vistors to my profile to be able to see my list of submitted recipes. This would appear to solve most of the problems that form the basis of this blog entry.
Aug. 11, 2010 3:02 am
Good EatNZ-what I have to do when I want to recommend a recipe is find the recipe, pull it up, and now it's a "recently viewed" recipe. There's probably an easier way, and I just don't know it.
Aug. 11, 2010 4:02 am
That'smy Shan! Totally agree with her...the "Ask a question" button is the bain of my existance with people who are new to the exchange and need help! Sometimes they post a question and don't come back for hours and if they don't know how to copy and paste the links we give, it ends up being no help to them. I hate to say it...but I often skip over those questions anymore. And I can't count the times rthat I've posted the link for submitting a recipe. I have written to AR about both problems but I bet that was over a year ago now. They said they would look into it. I still don't see any reason for that ask a question button ever....because evn if the question isn't about food, someone always come up with a cute recipe that pertains to the topic ...often a recipe that would have never gotten noticed any other way!
Aug. 11, 2010 4:42 am
i think they need a FAQ tab for stuff about posting recipes, asking questions, how long it takes to post etc. :)
Aug. 11, 2010 4:51 am
Well, I hate to be a "glass half full" kind of gal...but I think they make it difficult for a reason, they don't want tons more recipes than they already have! Look at the comments on here and the RE, constant comments about how long (if EVER) it takes to have a recipe published, they would have even more complaints if they had more recipes. The fix seems easy, and I agree with you, just allow easier acess to personal recipes. I think AR would respond they already did with the recent upgrades...but I agree there is a better way. One commenter said to get rid of the "ask a question"! Back in the day there was no option like that, and if you wanted to just "talk" you had to post a recipe and comment under it. Remember that? It was crummy. AR seems to move at a pretty slow pace, but the years I've been on here they have made some significant changes, thanks to members like you who bring up good ideas. Keep it up!
Aug. 11, 2010 5:19 am
I'm with you, Gary.
Aug. 11, 2010 5:43 am
In total agreement. Sometimes navigation on many sites I visit is daunting and leaves me with the feeling that "I don't have to go back"! I'm not there to enjoy a puzzle or to leave without finding what I went there for after being tossed around in a sea of various categories, so creating a more "member/visitor friendly" site, would be a big crowd pleaser!
Aug. 11, 2010 6:13 am
Thanks for doing this, gderr! I don't expect that AR will incorporate every suggestion, but I sure hope they're at least reading and considering what their users are saying.
Aug. 11, 2010 6:41 am
A lot of questions asked can be answered by clicking on the Customer Support at the bottom of the page. I never think to go there and I bet no one else does either. If they had it as a tab it would answer a lot of questions and be easier to find. When I read Customer Support I don't think of answers to questions but a way to contact AR.
Aug. 11, 2010 6:53 am
I agree with you. I know when you added a personal recipe there was an option to share it, it would be great if there was a shared/personal recipes category to search. I'd love to have access to the great recipes that are not published. And I'd like people to try mine to see how they can improve them. (By the way, just started reading your blog and I really enjoy your writing)
Aug. 11, 2010 6:56 am
Diane makes some very good points. If submitted recipes sit in limbo forever and don't get posted or rejected, people will just stop submitting them or move on to some other cooking website....there are several out there where you can post directly. Since they don't have test kitchens here, it would seem to be a simple matter of their staff doing a search and they can easily tell if the recipe is there or not. At the same time, people keep finding duplicates on this site, so obviously their screening process isn't very good. All of that legal mumbo jumbo about them owning what you submit forever is nonsense. I doubt there is any legal validity to that and often times websites post legal language just to scare people off. The same recipes posted on here are often found on 4-5 other popular cooking websites, so who was first and who 'owns' the rights to them???? Then there is the whole issue that ingredients can't be copyrighted by the directions can.....or whatever????? If you post recipes on public websites, I assume you do that because you WANT others to have and use them ......LOL.
Aug. 11, 2010 7:24 am
@Saveur - I kind of have to agree with you. AR has to not only accept the recipe for submission, but then they do a complete background check on it to see if it wasn't plaguerized from another site or cookbook. Once that's cleared, they make the dish to see if all the ingredients and instructions are correct. If they aren't or there is an issue, it just sits in Limbo. If your recipe says Accepted For Review and has been sitting there for quite some time, maybe they just don't want to publish it for some reason. They do let you know, usually. As for having a data base of personal recipes that can be "searched" - I don't have a problem if people want their recipes accessed by the public, published or not, but I'm sure AR does! In all honesty, I've clicked on people's recipes and frankly, there are alot that simply aren't appetizing looking. What one thinks is a great recipe, may not be shared by others at AR who make the decisions. Frankly, I don't want a bunch of unpublished recipes to come up in a search unless I can checkbox a search of "All" recipes. I've submitted 6 recipes here and have had 4 accepted for publishing. One I had approved and published within 48 hours of submission and the other within a week of submitting, so I can't complain. I wonder how many people stop to think that maybe their recipe isn't all that great or maybe there are others here exactly like it, or perhaps even someone has plaguerized the recipe - which to me breaks the cardinal rule of honesty. @lk2cook, I worked at Intel in the Intellectual Property group. If you really want to think that legal language is "mumbo jumbo" think again. It's not and they will come after anyone who violates the law. If you submit your recipe to AR, you have given them inherent permission to "own" the recipe. BTW, a few years back, I had a recipe here that was submitted for my personal recipe box and was never submitted for publishing here. Someone went in and copied that recipe and submitted it to AR as their own recipe and it was published!! They even made up a fake story behind it using their grandmother's name.. lol. It was an extremely unique recipe that my Grandmother kept and gave to me. I recognized it right away. I didn't put it on here so someone else could do that. I collect heirloom recipes and put them in my private box so that I can have access to them and I didn't privatize this one, the system was new and didn't realize I had to. My mistake, but I won't make that mistake again! So yeah... "whatever". That really sucks.
Aug. 11, 2010 10:12 am
Great suggestion gderr! Hope they take it up! Have only submitted one recipe, but I know there are so many others out there!
Aug. 11, 2010 10:30 am
so many great suggestions and points of fact. thank all of you for airing your view-points. i'm missed many items, i'm sure and want to thank the folks for helping me better understand.
Aug. 11, 2010 10:51 am
I have submitted one recipe, back in 2003. It has been approved for editing for several years now. I will never bother submitting any more recipes.
Aug. 11, 2010 12:17 pm
Great topic, Gary. In addition to your suggestions I would like them to figure out a way I can access more than the first or last 200 recipes if more than that come up when I search. I'd like to see the middle 200 too.
Aug. 11, 2010 12:40 pm
Imagine how many people submit recipes. I'm guessing that in order to have one accepted, it has to rise above the other submissions in taste and appeal. I'm not surprised there is such a backlog. Personally, I feel better looking at recipes that have been approved by AR and I assume they have been tested before they are published.
Aug. 11, 2010 2:42 pm
the approval process...another question. how do they do it? is it kitchen approved? beats me. another is the cook of the week chosen?
Aug. 11, 2010 3:41 pm
ok - this is a great blog today - but i have a nonrelated question - how was the first day of school!!!
Aug. 11, 2010 4:50 pm
hi fish! she had a great day. i'm still very concerned about her but i guess i always will be of course. i ask her every day, how are you doing. i ask her many times every day. i can't call her as often now. irritating. i love her. it's been very difficult.
Aug. 11, 2010 5:32 pm
If someone has 'heirloom' or 'treasured family recipes' I would never recommend posting them on the internet on any public website no matter what what the site privacy setting imply. The owners of the site probably have access to all of that information so that is really a terrible place to store anything you don't want others to have. From a practical standpoint, there really isn't much you can do to the person who copies personal recipes from you and claims them as their own. Items openly posted on public websites are generally considered part of the public domain.
Aug. 12, 2010 7:30 pm
AR does not make every recipe. They use a recipe generator software to process submissions through. This is what I was told by AR when I asked why one of my recipes had been rejected. Recipes need to be submitted with specific, weights, volume, counts and so on. They told me the recipe I submitted needed to be adjusted and to please resubmit. I did and have heard nothing about it since. It has been a few months now. So - they don't physically make every recipe... who knew ! ? ! And too, I think, just because a recipe is "approved" does not always make it good or even workable. How many recipes have been questioned as to ratios, baking times and so fourth? (Sometimes it is just me messing something up) -Any recipe be it personal or approved had potential to pass or fail - thats where the benefit of the rating system helps. I do not rely on "approved" status 100% now I know they do not physically make each and every recipe.
Aug. 18, 2010 6:42 am
As long as we are whining about AR, I have a suggestion for the "custom version" links. It is nearly impossible to tell what the changes to a recipe is in the custom version because you can't compare the versions side by side. It would be great in the new, custom version to have the changes highlighted or in italics or some other way to indicate the changes. For the most part, changes indicated in reviews are clearer and made apparent.
Sep. 15, 2010 9:11 pm
Hi Gary & Claire, was just checking in for an update....hope that school is still going great for Claire. Hope that you and your family are enjoying autumn beginning. In August, I stayed with my Dad in the hospital for 4 weeks & he passed away after a battle with prostrate cancer. The last July chemo treatment just beat his body was a difficult time, but I'm glad I was able to stay with him that 4 weeks. My dad was the caregiver for my Mom, so I'm working on the nursing home process for her care. We're doing okay...but I'll share that losing a parent wasn't a journey that I was ready for. Life is indeed a precious gift from God!! ----Know that you & Claire are still in my prayers and I request prayer for my family as well. may God continue to bless each reader of this blog. :) take care ~Ivy
Oct. 5, 2010 10:05 am
gderr, I agree with you...there should be some acceptance in our favor...enjoyed your blog
Oct. 23, 2010 7:08 am
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