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Pie Troubleshooting Guide

By:   Allrecipes Staff

Unworkable dough? Soggy crust? Learn how to prevent common pie problems.

  • The dough cracks when I try to roll it

The dough is either too dry or too cold. If it seems to be crumbling apart, work a few sprinkles of water into it--a squeeze bottle works well--but try to handle it as little as possible. If it merely cracks at the edges when you run the rolling pin over it, it probably just needs to warm up a little. Allow it to sit on the counter for a few minutes, but don't let it get too warm, or the layers of fat will melt together and your crust will not be flaky.

  • The dough sticks to the rolling pin

Chill the dough before trying to roll it out. Lightly flour the countertop and the flattened ball of dough. Keep dusting the pastry lightly on both sides as you roll. You don't want to work in more flour, but you can always brush off excess from the dough.  Pastry cloths and rolling pin covers are also available. These are made from thin machine-washable cotton, and they will help prevent sticking dough; be sure to lightly flour the cloth and the cover before using them. You can also roll the dough out between sheets of waxed paper.

  • The crust doesn't brown on the bottom

Cover the edges of the crust with aluminum foil, and place the pie on the bottom oven rack. Begin baking at a relatively high temperature (425 to 450 degrees F/220 to 230 degrees C), then reduce it after 20 minutes or so. The initial high temperature will help the crust to brown, and reducing the temperature will allow the filling to cook thoroughly before the crust burns. Even better: invest in a baking stone. Bake the pie--on a baking sheet to prevent spills--directly on the hot stone.

  • My crust is soggy

Brush the bottom crust with beaten egg white or heated jelly before pouring in your filling. Or try partially or fully baking crust before adding the filling. Partially baking the bottom crust can be a challenge if you're making a double-crust pie, but it can be done--you just won't get a good seal between the top and bottom crusts.

  • The crust is too pale

Increase the oven temperature. You can also brush the top crust with beaten egg or milk for a golden, glossy appearance. If your crust recipe contains vinegar or lemon juice, this could be the culprit as well: these ingredients are used to make the crust tender, but they can also inhibit browning. Counteract it by adding about a teaspoon of sugar and a pinch of salt to your flour before mixing in the fat.

  • I pre-baked my pie crust, and it came out shrunken, puffy, and misshapen

Allow the dough to rest in the refrigerator both before and after rolling it out. Also be sure that you never pull or stretch the dough when fitting it into the pan. Use a fork to poke the crust in several places to allow steam to escape without forcing the crust to puff up. If you're baking a custard pie where the filling is baked in the crust (as opposed to a cream pie, where the filling is cooked on the stovetop then poured into a pre-baked crust) holes in the crust allow the custard to seep through the holes. (You can save extra dough when rolling out the crust and use it to patch cracks and holes.)

  • My pumpkin pie cracked in the center

Custard pies--including pecan pies--need delicate handling. A too-hot oven or over-baking are the most common causes for cracking. Don't let the filling puff up or "soufflĂ©," and don't bake the pie so long that the filling is completely set in the center. See Pumpkin Pies and Custard Pies  for more tips.

  • My fruit pie is runny

One way to ensure your filling is thick enough is to pre-cook it. Take half to two-thirds of the fruit-sugar-starch mixture, and bring it to a boil. Simmer the filling for at least one minute for cornstarch or tapioca, and three minutes for flour-thickened pies. Remove from heat, and stir in the remaining raw fruit. This gives you a thicker filling that still contains chunks of uncooked fruit for texture.

Also, be sure the pie has cooled completely before you slice it--the filling needs time to set properly.

Comments
Jul. 10, 2009 6:47 am
My meringue gets weepy with brown water droplets on top and after first servings and pie is refrigerated overnight, there is a lot of clear liquid in the pie plate making crust soggy and the remainder of the pie inedible!
 
Jul. 19, 2009 5:20 am
southern gma, that has happened to me too and its very depressing! im not sure ALL the tips to prevent this but I am pretty sure you need to put the meringue on while the filling is still hot, and "seal" the edge... so usually i plop the meringue around the edges in a circle, and then plop the rest in the middle. then i spread it around, and use the spatula around the edges so the meringue is directly touching the crust. perhaps the best way to visualize this is to imagine you are going to "trap" the filling, or "suffocate" it by making sure there is enough meringue to cover all the edges so no air gets in. maybe someone else will have a better explaination.. good luck!
 
Tammy 
Jul. 22, 2009 2:38 pm
I NEED HELP!!! WHEN MAKING MY HOMEMADE CRUST IT COMES OUT TO HARD TO CUT OR CHEW!! PLZ HELP WHAT AM I DOING WRONG??
 
uncle bud 
Jul. 24, 2009 10:38 am
by putting a beaten egg in your pie filling your pies wont run anymore and you will not tast the egg
 
Jul. 25, 2009 10:08 am
Tammy, I use the pie crust on the side of the Crisco can. I have never had any problem with that one and it is delicious!
 
Jul. 25, 2009 10:13 am
Valerie, I think maybe you are not incorporating your sugar into your egg whites well enough. Try beating sugar and eggs a little more. Hope that helps, I used to have the same trouble.
 
sarah.williams 
Aug. 4, 2009 3:26 pm
Tammy, I did this once too, I think it is a combination of too much water/ liquid and to much handling which turns it more in to paper mache than a flaky pie curst. Try ice water next time. And less kneeding.
 
lori from Connecticut 
Sep. 4, 2009 10:47 am
I had this problem years ago until I found that if i whip it for a really good length of time,(to me..i don't worry about overbeating it) it doesn't weep. Gotta make sure that sugar is incorporated really good. So far, this works for me.
 
Mary Ellen 
Sep. 5, 2009 2:25 pm
When I make a two crust pie, such as an apple pie, the top crust stays high as the apples cook down. Then there is too much space between the apples and the crust. How do you prevent this?
 
Gemma 
Sep. 6, 2009 8:15 am
Every time I make pie crust, it is too flaky to handle--I have flour and dough everywhere! The ratio of 2 cups of flour to 3/4 cup of shortening doe not work--I'm thinking I may need to increase the shortening--to much water makes a tough crust.
 
BABS 
Sep. 9, 2009 1:15 pm
How do you keep apple filling and top crust from separating. The top crust stays domed and the filling shrinks away from it.
 
Sep. 22, 2009 7:26 am
You need to make adequate vents (slits) in the top of the crust, so it can settle down as the pie cools. Also, use a variety of apple meant for baking, like Paula Red. Some apples, like gold delicious, shrink and get mushy after baking. As for the meringue, I found the weeping only happens with time. Bake your pie the day you plan to serve it, or the day before at earliest. The other tips are good too.
 
CheryB 
Sep. 24, 2009 5:41 am
My pie crusts always tear apart on me when trying to put it in the pan. It does this no matter what I try to do! And my crusts are not flaky! The crust starts tearing while I am rolling it and it sticks to my counter even when I flour it! I would love to know how to make a really good pie crust! HELP!!
 
jonie 
Sep. 26, 2009 11:34 pm
the best pie crust making tip i ever received was to roll out your dough on waxed paper lightly coated with flour and then you just flip it over into your pie pan works great
 
cozyk 
Oct. 10, 2009 7:42 am
After having even a 12 year old complain about my pie crusts I have given up!!!I can make great crusts if I use lard but have started eating kosher and now they are nasty.Hey I make great cakes still. LOL
 
Oct. 13, 2009 12:00 pm
I made a beautiful apple pie, heaping with apples. It looked great when I took it out of the oven, like it was still heaping high above the edge of the pie plate. When I cut into it, it was all a farce! the apples had cooked down and there was a great gaping airspace between the apples and crust. What did I do wrong?
 
Annah 
Oct. 15, 2009 12:31 pm
I planned on making an Apple Pie from scratch today and had forgotten I always have that dome effect too. How can that be avoided? Several asked, but no answers were given.
 
Oct. 15, 2009 6:46 pm
you people are awesome.I am all new at this stuff and your tips make me look like a pro from the start. Thanks to all who give there input!!!
 
Oct. 17, 2009 6:15 pm
The best tip I've ever tried and now use all the time for flaky, tender, easy to roll and shape pie crusts is to add approxiately 1/3 cup of vodka to the water portion of your dough recipe and make sure this liquid mixture is very very cold, the vodka moisture bakes away leaving absolutely no taste, and inhibits the gluten formed by combining the flour and water. You can easily roll this dough out because you are using more liquid than just the water. You can roll and re-roll and it never gets tough or cracks, or shrinks or any of the usual problems encountered in making and rolling pie crusts. The recipe was found in a Cook's Illustrated book and its worked every time for me, really....no taste of vodka at all. Its online too at Cooks Illustrated, although I do love this site!
 
rosemary 
Oct. 19, 2009 4:16 pm
There are so many people (including me) who are intimidated at the thought of making a pie crust,but with all your great tips we all can achieve the perfect crust! I love this website!
 
monkeycakz 
Oct. 23, 2009 7:51 pm
For those with pie crust issues.The recipe that I use is the butter flaky pie crust on here. I learned you need to freeze the butter and use a cheese grater to grate the butter into the flour.(thank u alton brown)than just use your hands. i have no issues with over or underworking the dough. Also I use ice cold apple cider instead of water and the crust is always good. But only use as much as needed to bring the dough together than ball up, wrap in plastic wrap and put in fridge at least 20 mins. though 30-40 is better. I avoid the dome effect with apple pie by using a lattice top. works always and looks like grandmas.
 
Oct. 23, 2009 11:20 pm
WOW! HOW CAN i GO WRONG WITH ALL THE TIPS ON MAKING PIES AND CRUSTS.using vodka? who'd of thought? Sometimes even with wonderful tips I can still manage to screw it up sometimes!!
 
Oct. 24, 2009 3:46 am
maryellen & babs, to keep the top crust from domeing, you should cut more vents into it. I always make four leave veins, and dot the top!
 
Bette 
Oct. 24, 2009 10:27 am
My mother-in-law taught me to vent my top pie crust by making a large tree with the trunk, branches and little grass vents at the bottom. This will stop the large dome from forming and is very pretty. I also sprinkle sugar on top.
 
kimmie16 
Oct. 24, 2009 2:38 pm
To keep crust edges from burning or becoming done before the pie simply wrap them in foil; make sure foil does not touch filling. Also, for a flaky crust use ice water.
 
Nov. 4, 2009 1:52 pm
Re: domed apple pie crusts, I've found when I precook the apples (cut in smaller slices, some in 'chunks' in a skillet over low heat with the sugar and spices for about 10 minutes, it allows them to compress a litle so when you top the pie with your crust the top crust doesn't "set' so high and will set on top of the filling more closely while it finishes baking. And the venting of the crust is crucial too. Hope this helps, good luck. Also, I've experimented with using a variety of apples, as stated before, for flavor and texture and it seems to work for me.
 
 
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