okay, this recipe took some work to get it the way i wanted but in the end it was well worth it. I am always reluctant to made trifles as i don't like cool whip or instant pudding. After reading many reviews from people who had used real whipped cream instead of cool whip i decided to try it and also used cooked pudding. The whipping cream does not need sugar added as the sweet milk and pudding is plenty sweet.I made caramel sauce to pour over the brownies as suggested by others. I'm sure the real cream and pudding will separate before too long but no worries as this trifle is so good i'm sure it won't last long!
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